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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 30/10/2007 02:15:56 ( #201 )

ORIGINAL: Sophie

Traditional Anglicans ask for full communion with Catholics
By Catholic News Service
October 25, 2007

DUBLIN, Ireland (CNS) -- Parishioners from three Church of Ireland parishes have joined traditional Anglicans from 12 other countries in requesting that the Catholic Church receive them into full communion.

The Traditional Anglican Communion describes itself as a worldwide association of orthodox Anglican churches, working to maintain the faith and resist the secularization of the church. The traditional rite of the Church of Ireland (Anglican) emerged in 1991 after the House of Bishops of the Church of Ireland decided to start ordaining women. Traditionalist Anglicans decried the move as a "defiance of both Scripture and tradition."


 
There is nothing so powerful as ignorance, prejudice, and subjugation of women to unite two Christian Churches.
 
After reading all the arguments against ordination of women, I have realized the reason God became a man and not a woman. The answer is the obvious one. No one would have listened to her. Men don’t respect women and women don’t respect other women. The message of love and peace and forgiveness would have been lost to most of the world.
 
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 30/10/2007 02:30:50 ( #202 )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
a powerful observation...reminding us of the need to answer Christ's call to be agents of transformation in the world and in the Church...
 
Thank you for sharing.
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 30/10/2007 02:39:59 ( #203 )
New appointments at WCC specialise in advocacy and interfaith dialogue
By staff writers
25 Oct 2007
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Two people known for their achievements in faith-based advocacy and interfaith dialogue, have been engaged by the Geneva-based World Council of Churches (WCC).  The new staff members will head the programme on Public witness and the programme on Inter-religious dialogue and cooperation. The programmes enable bilateral dialogues, regional and cross-cultural encounters on perceptions of "the other" and on issues such as conversion; engages churches in reflections on what it means to be Christian in a world of many religions; and accompanies and equips the churches for advocacy in countries where religion is at the centre of conflicts. The new appointments complete the reconfiguration of the WCC staff leadership following the WCC 9th Assembly in 2006.

The WCC directors newly appointed by the WCC executive committee are:
  • Rev Elenora Giddings Ivory (Public witness: addressing power and affirming peace)
  • and Rev Dr Shanta Premawardhana (Inter-religious dialogue and cooperation).

Other key staff leadership positions were already filled in April this year.
Giddings Ivory and Premawardhana are leaving positions in North America to take up their new responsibilities within the Council's Geneva headquarters in November.


Rev. Elenora Giddings Ivory

Rev. Elenora Giddings Ivory is a Presbyterian from the United States, who brings to her new post almost two decades of experience in advocacy strategic planning, management and supervision. She formerly served as director of the Presbyterian Church's public policy, information and advocacy office in Washington. A Harvard Divinity School graduate and pastor, she has previously served as vice-president of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA (NCCUSA), and as chair of the council’s national ministry’s unit; she was also a member of the board of Americans United for Separation of Church and State and worked on different task forces of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights.

In her new position, Giddings Ivory will be responsible for overseeing WCC initiatives in relation to churches' concerns on violence, war, peace, human rights, economic injustice, poverty, and exclusion. The WCC programme on Public witness: addressing power and affirming peace is designed to advocate at the UN and other global fora, as well as accompany and bring churches together to reflect on and effectively respond to critical situations, especially in the Middle East, and to promote peace through the Decade to Overcome Violence. Programmatic work receives guidance from the Commission of the Churches on International Affairs (CCIA).



Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana

Rev. Dr Shanta Premawardhana, is a Baptist pastor in the United States. Prior to that in his native Sri Lanka, Rev Dr Shanta Premawardhana served as the associate general secretary for interfaith relations of the NCCUSA for the past four years. As an activist in congregation-based community organizing and pastor in Chicago for 14 years, he demonstrated his leadership skills in building bridges across boundaries that divide.

A series of panel discussions Premawardhana organized at the American Academy of Religion emphasizes Christian theology’s critical engagement with religious diversity. The WCC’s “Thinking Together,” which includes the participation of scholars and leaders of other religious traditions, he suggests, is an effective model for such engagement. Convinced that inter-religious work must include joint actions for peace with justice, he also advocates for faith-based diplomacy, with religious leaders taking the lead in diplomatic initiatives, particularly in conflicts that are religion-related.
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 15/11/2007 12:25:47 ( #204 )
Cardinal calls it 'breakthrough' that Orthodox discuss authority
By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service
November 14, 2007

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The "real breakthrough" in a new Catholic-Orthodox dialogue document lies in the fact that the Orthodox were willing to discuss how authority was shared and exercised on a universal level in the early church, said Cardinal Walter Kasper.
 

Cardinal Walter Kasper


The cardinal, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, spoke with Vatican Radio Nov. 14 about the document on the unity of the church and how authority is shared and exercised on a local, regional and universal level.

After finalizing the document during a meeting in Ravenna, Italy, members of the dialogue commission planned to release the text Nov. 15. But a Web site associated with the Russian Orthodox Church, whose delegation abandoned the Ravenna meeting, published the text in late October.

Cardinal Kasper said that the Catholic delegates were "very saddened and concerned" that the Russians left the meeting, "but the absence of the Russian Orthodox Church does not take away the validity or the legitimacy of this document."

In the document, he said, "the real breakthrough is that for the first time the Orthodox were ready to speak about the universal level of the church" and not simply about the reality of the church on a local or regional level under a patriarch or archbishop.

The document recognizes there must be "synodality" -- responsibility exercised by all the bishops together -- on the universal level, but also that one bishop must hold the place of honor as the primate and that, in the ancient church, that position was held by the bishop of Rome.

The document said, however, that Catholics and Orthodox disagree on how his leadership translated into a concrete exercise of authority and jurisdiction over other bishops.

Cardinal Kasper said the agreement reached in Ravenna was important, but "it is only a first step."

The next phase of the dialogue will be to examine the role of the bishop of Rome -- the pope -- in the first millennium when Catholics and Orthodox still were united. After that discussion, they will need to look at how Catholic and Orthodox teaching on authority diverged and, particularly, on the development within the Catholic Church of the idea of papal infallibility.

"This will not be an easy dialogue," Cardinal Kasper said. "I think it will need a whole decade" to reach agreement.

The Ravenna document, he said, "is an important first step, a basis, but not more. And we hope with God's help and the prayers of many faithful we can go on with this ecumenical pilgrimage with the Orthodox churches."


http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0706519.htm
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 15/11/2007 12:27:16 ( #205 )
Dear friends,

If you are just joining us, you may be interested to know that our potential reunion with the Orthodox has implications for women's ordination.  Though the ordained women's diaconate no longer functions in our Church as it did at one time (for more about this see:



the women's diaconate survived for a much longer time in the eastern Churches and in fact, is in the process of being restored in some of them.

For more about this, see here:

If reuinification is a possibility, then reconsideration of the prohibition against women's ordination will be a key matter requiring address.
 
with love and blessings,


~Sophie~
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 15/11/2007 12:29:59 ( #206 )
Ecumenical talks reach partial accord on papal primacy
 

Rome, Nov. 14, 2007 (CWNews.com) - Talks between Catholic and Orthodox theologians held in Ravenna, Italy, in October produced a framework for agreement about the primacy of the Pope, according to a report in the Italian daily La Repubblica.
 
The top Vatican representative at the Ravenna talks has cautioned that a 46-paragraph final document approved by the participants should not be seen as a dramatic step toward Orthodox acceptance of the Pope's authority, since it does not resolve questions about the nature of papal authority.
 
Cardinal Walter Kasper, the president of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, told a Vatican Radio audience that "the real breakthrough is that for the first time the Orthodox were ready to speak about the universal level of the Church."
 
The 46-paragraph document approved at the Ravenna meeting-- which is due for release on November 15-- refers to the Bishop of Rome as the "first among the patriarchs," La Repubblica reported. The document recognizes the historical patriarchates of the united Church, in Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem. Among these, the Ravenna participants agreed, Rome has primacy.
 
However, the Ravenna document does not settle questions about the power the Pope enjoys as a consequence of that primacy. In fact, the members of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue noted in their concluding statement that Catholic and Orthodox theologians disagree "on the interpretation of the historical evidence from this era regarding the prerogatives of the bishop of Rome as protos," or first among the patriarchs.
 
"While the fact of primacy at the universal level is accepted by both East and West," the Ravenna statement continued, "there are differences of understanding with regard to the manner in which it is to be exercised, and also with regard to its scriptural and theological foundations."
 
Cardinal Kasper told Vatican Radio that the Ravenna document will for the basis for further talks. In future meetings, he said, "we have have to go on to clarify the details."
 
The October meeting in Ravenna was the 10th plenary session of the joint theological commission, which was established in 1979 as a joint initiative of Pope John Paul II and Ecumenical Patriarch Dimitrios I. The next meeting of the commission will be follow up on the exploration of papal primacy, with a discussion of the role played by the Bishop of Rome as the focus of Christian unity during the 1st millennium, before the split between Rome and Constantinople.
 
The Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue brings together 60 top theologians, 30 Catholic and 30 Orthodox, representing the Catholic Church and the major Orthodox bodies. The Ravenna meeting was conducted under a cloud because the Russian Orthodox delegation-- representing by far the largest Orthodox Church in the world-- walked out of the meeting at the beginning of the discussions, in a dispute over the seating of a delegation from the Estonian Orthodox Church, which Moscow does not recognize.
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 15/11/2007 12:57:05 ( #207 )
Interreligious Dialogue Is Working, Says Scholar
Affirms It Needs to Continue in Daily Relationships

 
ROME, NOV. 14, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Interreligious dialogue should extend to daily relationships, but it is bringing good fruits, said the director of the Pontifical Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies. Father Miguel Ángel Ayuso Guixot affirmed this recently at an event ushering in the new school year for the Pontifical Theological Faculty Marianum.

Drawing from the Second Vatican Council declaration "Nostra Aetate," Father Ayuso explained that "the cooperation between cultural and religious groups is absolutely necessary to overcome all forms of community tension and to be able, therefore, to live in hopes of camaraderie and peace."

The priest spent 20 years as a missionary in Egypt and Sudan.

"Some of this new millennium's events -- Sept. 11, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East, etc. -- have clouded over the world, already seen as a global village thanks to human progress, and it has been placed in a delicate situation demanding everyone's collaboration at all levels to assure world peace," he contended. "It's obvious that religion has a fundamental role in this process of integration, coexistence and peace."
Catalyst

Father Ayuso said that in recent decades, interreligious dialogue with Muslims has produced numerous fruits.

"In the Catholic Church, the great impulse of the Islamic-Christian dialogue was Vatican II. In the Muslim environment, the response to dialogue's demands comes a little late, but it is at least significant, contrary to what some think," he said.

Citing Father Maurice Borrmans, a well-known promoter of Islamic-Christian dialogue, Father Ayuso affirmed that "in the midst of the questions and confusion generated today by the international situation regarding Islamic-Western relations, and in the midst of the uncertainties and worries of many men and women accustomed to dialogue, it is necessary on everyone's part, Christian and Muslim alike, not to lose hope and to recover the momentum."

"This dialogue continues, as we've seen, in spite of difficulties and obstacles. Many institutions, Christian and Muslim, have insisted on this work," he noted.

Future

Father Ayuso acknowledged that the process is difficult: "Many criticize this dialogue and come to believe it is useless, at times dangerous, as much for one as for the other. In reality, the actual situation offers everyone a good opportunity to purify intentions, improve methods and increase activities.

"In this sense, they have marked three perspectives for the future: education, seeking common shared values and reciprocal cooperation in the building of our future."

"We need a common platform to develop interreligious relationships in daily life, in interreligous cooperation, and in theological reflection, as well as in a spiritual encounter," Father Ayuso continued. "Our times, ever more globalized every day, urgently need harmonious dealings that promote religious freedom, healthy reciprocity and the promotion of peace."

Quoting Benedict XVI, he proposed that "all this must happen by means of intercultural and interreligious dialogue, with optimism and hope, simply because this dialogue can't be reduced to something added or optional; on the contrary, it is a vital necessity on which is dependent a good part of our future."

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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 16/11/2007 12:30:36 ( #208 )
More new women priests than men
BBC News, November 13, 2007
 
The number of women who became priests in the Church of England outnumbered men last year for the first time since the church began ordaining women.

The Church of England said 244 women were ordained, compared with 234 men.
 


Most women priests are taking on unpaid positions

 
Most of the women becoming priests in 2006 did not become full-time paid clergy, but took voluntary posts.

A spokeswoman for the Church of England said issues of inequality between men and women, who first became priests in 1994, were being addressed.

BBC religious affairs correspondent Robert Piggott said the number of people training for ordination rose in the last decade, with women making up a steadily larger proportion. Recent research showed that half of priests ordained in recent years were women and concluded that without them pulpits would become "depopulated".

Women now make up a quarter of Anglican clergy.
Discrimination claims

Just half of new priests have full-time salaried positions, with the rest taking the increasing number of unpaid posts - often in parishes where the Church cannot afford to pay a salary. Of those ordained last year to full-time stipendiary or paid ministry, 128 were men and 95 were women.

About 60% of the women were trained to do these voluntary duties.

Some claim that the relatively small number of women promoted to senior positions, such as cathedral deans and archdeacons, shows that they still face discrimination.
 
Last year, University of Manchester researchers said that, despite their increasing numbers, women clergy seemed not to have made an impact on the Church because it was "far from being an equal opportunity employer".
It cited 2005 figures which showed that most men who became priests went into paid "stipendiary" ministry, while most of the women were in voluntary posts.

But the Reverend Rosemary Lain-Priestley, secretary to the National Association of Diocesan Advisers in Women's Ministry, said many bishops wanted to appoint more women to senior roles, but there were issues that "undermined this process".

A lack of mentoring and preparation meant women were reluctant to put themselves forward, and a Church emphasis on "experience over aptitude" also ruled some women out.  She added: "Many women priests feel that until women can become bishops they will not be taken seriously in other senior roles, despite the success of women deans and archdeacons. These issues are being addressed, but cultural shifts do not happen overnight."

Senior members of the Church are now considering the introduction of women bishops. More than two-thirds of the General Synod have backed the concept as "theologically justified".

Attendance falling

In a separate set of statistics, the Church confirmed provisional figures from January showing average Sunday attendances fell below a million for the first time in 2005 to 988,000.

Average weekly attendance in that year was 1.17 million, and average monthly attendance was 1.7 million.

Attendance at Church of England services on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day increased dramatically in 2005 - it was 7% higher than in 2001 at 2.8 million.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7091976.stm
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 16/11/2007 12:39:25 ( #209 )
Recent related stories from the BBC News:
 
'No doubts' over ordaining women
BBC World News
November 16, 2006
 
There is no theological reason to revisit the issue of ordaining women, the Archbishop of Canterbury says.
 
Rowan Williams' comments come after he told the Catholic Herald divisions in the Anglican Church had "tested" his belief it was the right thing to do.


Dr Rowan Williams is due to visit the Pope in Rome
 
The Church of England first ordained women as priests in 1994 and had 1,262 serving women priests in 2002.

The archbishop had told the newspaper he could "just about envisage a situation in which, over a very long period, the Anglican Church thought about it again, but I would need to see what the theological reason for that would be".

'No theological justification'

But on Thursday Dr Williams clarified his remarks, saying: "From the very beginning of this issue I have been a supporter of the ordination of women and have not doubted the rightness of the decision or the blessings it has brought."
 
He said reports that the Anglican Church would reconsider the ordination of women were "wilfully misleading".

"I made it clear in the interview with the Catholic Herald, and will continue to do so, that I see no theological justification for any revisiting of this question, and indicated in the interview three times that I have no wish to reopen it, whatever technical possibilities might theoretically exist. My convictions mean that I feel nothing less than full support for the decision the Church of England made in 1992, and appreciation of the priesthood exercised," he said.

'Supportive'

The Very Reverend June Osborne, Dean of Salisbury, who became the second female dean in the UK in 2004, said the Archbishop had always supported her ministry and was surprised anyone would query his commitment to women priests.

In a statement she said: "I have known and worked with the Archbishop of Canterbury for more than a decade and he has been unerringly supportive of my ministry and the ministry of other women.

"I was thus surprised that there could have been any misunderstanding about his commitment to women priests. In my experience Archbishop Rowan has been unequivocal about the profound benefits that have been brought to the Church of England by the ministry of women."

Views 'tested'

Dr Williams was also asked in the interview with the Catholic Herald if divisions within the Church had affected his views on the ordination of women.

"It has tested it, it really has, and there have been moments when I have felt that," he said.

"But I think perhaps what one doesn't realise is how very, very normal this has come to feel for the vast majority of Anglicans and it hasn't undermined what the people feel about the ministry of the sacraments."

Dr Williams' remarks will also be viewed against the current debate within the worldwide Anglican Church, over the introduction of female bishops.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6153182.stm
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 16/11/2007 12:44:54 ( #210 )
A misunderstanding on women priests?
BBC World News
November 17, 2006
By Robert Pigott
BBC Religious affairs correspondent

 
The Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams says he was wilfully misunderstood by those who reported an interview as suggesting he was having second thoughts about women priests.

Our Religious Affairs Correspondent, Robert Pigott looks at how easy a mistake it was to make.

Rowan Williams said the Anglican Church might one day rethink its hard-fought decision to ordain women.  He also suggested that women clergy had failed to produce the spectacular transformation and renewal of the Church that many hoped for.


The Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams was misunderstood

Could the Church's leader really have said such things? Well, yes...and no.
 
As with so many pronouncements made about the Church - what was meant, and how it could be interpreted, were radically different things. The Catholic Herald, to whom Dr Williams gave his interview, may not have expected its pre-visit chat to turn into a scoop.

But then Dr Williams said this about ordaining women: "[I could] just about envisage a situation in which, over a very long period, the Anglican Church thought about it again, but I would need to see what the theological reason for that would be."

Superficially, Dr Williams seems to be keeping the door open to reversing the historic decision to make women priests, and doing so just as the Church is poised to allow them to become bishops too.

But there is more to it than that. First of all there is the context.

Dr Williams is about to meet the Pope at a time when attention is focused on relations between the two churches.

His interview with the Catholic Herald was designed to raise the curtain on his papal encounter, coming as it does on the 40th anniversary of a significant rapprochement between the Anglican and Roman Catholic Churches.

It was the Church of England's decision to ordain women more than a decade ago that has meant that as Dr Williams put it, Catholic-Anglican unity has "hit the buffers a bit".

So, natural enough for him to address the issue.

Gratify the traditionalists

Secondly, there is Dr Williams himself...the academic theologian taking the long view of church history. He gave the Herald a reasoned justification for his view that his church was right to ordain women - that a baptised man and a baptised woman related to Jesus Christ in the same way, so either could be called to serve as a priest.

It is a rational, unemotional argument in what has been a highly charged debate.

It would be no surprise if Dr Williams took a similarly dispassionate - even theoretical - view of the potential for future fundamental change in the Church's attitude to women's ordination.

He may have felt that a theoretical view could shed light on long-term change in the Anglican Church and on its relations with its big sister.

Dr Williams' assessment of the effect of women's ordination on the Church of England also shows how easily this scholarly figure can be misunderstood.

He said that he did not think that women clergy had "transformed or renewed the Church in spectacular ways"...though neither had they "corrupted or ruined it".

It seemed a lukewarm assessment, likely to disappoint women priests and gratify the traditionalists who campaigned against their ordination.
But Dr Williams has dismissed such interpretations of his interview in uncharacteristically forthright terms.

'Wilfully misleading'

In a fresh statement, he pointed out that he had never "doubted the rightness of that decision [on women's ordination] or the blessings it has brought", and that he had made clear that he saw "no theological justification for revisiting the question and indicated in the interview three times that I had no wish to reopen it, whatever technical possibilities might theoretically exist".

He said that any other interpretation was "wilfully misleading".

And there has been strong support from senior women clergy.

The Dean of Salisbury, June Osborne, said Dr Williams "has been unerringly supportive of my ministry and the ministry of other women. I was thus surprised that there could have been any misunderstanding about his commitment to women priests," she said.

Indeed, no-one can doubt Dr Williams' commitment to the cause, as one of the key campaigners in the long battle to achieve women's ordination as priests, and a steadfast supporter of women bishops.

The difficulty for Dr Williams is that he is a clear-eyed and academic realist for whom the unvarnished truth sets the Church free, and simply saying the right thing risks confusion...while at the same time he is seen by Anglicans as their pastor, inspiration and chief cheer-leader.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6156544.stm
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 17/11/2007 01:38:14 ( #211 )
 

On this day November 17 in 1950 - Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama, was enthroned as Tibet's head of state at the age of fifteen.



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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 17/11/2007 01:48:12 ( #212 )
Women in Buddhism
 
Within Buddhism, the legitimacy of ordaining women as bhikkhuni (nuns) has become a significant topic of discussion in some areas in recent years. It is widely accepted that the Buddha created an order of bhikkhuni, but the tradition of ordaining women has died out in some Buddhist traditions, such as Theravada Buddhism, while remaining strong in others, such as Chinese Buddhism.

The ordination of women is currently and historically practiced in some Buddhist regions, such East Asia and Taiwan, and not in others, such as India and Sri Lanka.

The tradition of the ordained monastic community (sangha) began with Buddha, who established orders of Bhikkhu (monks) and later, after an initial reluctance, of Bhikkuni (nuns). The stories, sayings and deeds of some of the distinguished Bhikkhuni of early Buddhism are recorded in many places in the Pali Canon, most notably in the Therigatha.

However, not only did the Buddha lay down more rules of discipline for the bhikkhuni (311 compared to the bhikkhu's 227), he also made it more difficult for them to be ordained.

The tradition flourished for centuries throughout South and East Asia, but appears to have died out in the Theravada traditions of India and Sri Lanka in the 11th century C.E. However, the Mahayana tradition, particularly in Taiwan and Hong Kong, has retained the practice, where nuns are called 'Bhikṣuṇī' (the Sanskrit equivalent of the Pali 'Bhikkhuni'). Nuns are also found in Korea and Vietnam.

There have been some attempts in recent years to revive the tradition of women in the sangha within Theravada Buddhism in  Thailand, India, and Sri Lanka, with many women ordained in Sri Lanka since the late 1990s.

The International Congress on Buddhist Women's Role in the Sangha: Bhikshuni Vinaya and Ordination Lineages, took place in Germany, on July 18–20, 2007, is a turning point in reviving the Bhikkhuni lineage.'

Thailand
 
In 1928, the Supreme Patriarch of Thailand, responding to the attempted ordination of two women, issued an edict that monks must not ordain women. The two women were reportedly arrested and jailed briefly. In a more recent challenge to the Thai sangha's ban on women, Dhammananda Bhikkhuni, previously a professor of Buddhist philosophy known as Dr Chatsumarn Kabilsingh, was controversially ordained as a nun in Sri Lanka in 2003. Despite some support inside the religious hierarchy, the sangha remains fiercely opposed to the ordination of women.

Tibetan Tradition
 
The 2007 International Congress on Buddhist Women's Role in the Sangha, with the support of H. H. XIVth Dalai Lama, is expected to reinstate the Gelongma (skt. Bikshuni, tib. Gelongma) lineage, having been lost, in India and Tibet, for centuries. It is currently only possible for women to take Rabjungma ('entering') and Getshülma ('novice') ordinations in Tibetan tradition. Gelongma ordination requires the presence of ten fully ordained people keeping the exact same vows (men's and women's vows differ slightly). Because 10 Gelongmas are required in order to ordain a new Gelongma, the effort to reinstate the Gelongma tradition has taken a long time.

It is permissible for a Tibetan nun to receive Bikshuni ordination from another living tradition, e.g., in Vietnam. Based on this, Western nuns ordained in Tibetan tradition, like Venerable Thubten Chodron, took full ordination in another tradition, in order to revive 'Gelongma' ordination.

The same socio-cultural reasons that make it difficult for women to be nuns will still present challenges to the first Tibetan Gelongmas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordination_of_women#Buddhism
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 17/11/2007 01:56:23 ( #213 )

Thailand
 
In 1928, the Supreme Patriarch of Thailand, responding to the attempted ordination of two women, issued an edict that monks must not ordain women. The two women were reportedly arrested and jailed briefly. In a more recent challenge to the Thai sangha's ban on women, Dhammananda Bhikkhuni, previously a professor of Buddhist philosophy known as Dr Chatsumarn Kabilsingh, was controversially ordained as a nun in Sri Lanka in 2003. Despite some support inside the religious hierarchy, the sangha remains fiercely opposed to the ordination of women.

 

Bhikkhuni Dhammananda

Biography of Bhikkhuni Dhammananda (Prof. em. Dr Chatsumarn Kabilsingh)

Prof. Dr Chatsumarn Kabilsingh spent 30 years teaching at McMaster University,Canada and Thammasat University, Thailand.

She was among 1000 women who were nominated  for Nobel Prize in 2005, recognized by the UN as an Outstanding Buddhist Women, 2004, committee for  Niwano Peace Award 2002-2006.

Co-founder of Sakyadhita International Buddhist Association, 1987, President of Sakyadhita 1991-2005. Editor of Yasodhara (Newsletter on International Buddhist women’s Activities) 1987 up to present.

In 2001 She received ordination in Sri Lanka in 2001. Now abbot of Songdhammakalyani Monastery, the only monastery for bhikkhunis in Thailand. She is also the first Theravada bhikkhuni in Thailand.
 
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 17/11/2007 02:02:00 ( #214 )
Bhikkhuni says she is glum on future of ordination
Dhammananda doubts whether Thailand is ready to go back to its roots

by Sopaporn Kurz
Published on July 22, 2007
The Nation
Hamburg, Germany

The Dalai Lama on Friday expressed support for the introduction of Bhikkhunis (female monks) in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, but this is unlikely to change the stance of the Thai clergy, according to Thailand's first fully ordained female monk.
 
"I do not think there will be any change in the Thai Sangha's position regarding the Bhikkhuni's ordination in Thailand," Bhikkhuni Dhammananda said on Friday.

The Bhikkhuni lineage has been broken for more than 1,000 years in countries following Theravada Buddhism, such as Thailand and other Southeast Asian nations, and those following Mulasarvas-tivada Buddhism, like Tibet. Since the presence of both Bhikkhus (Buddhist monks) and Bhikkhunis is required at the ceremony to fully ordain a Bhikkhuni, conservative Sangha in these countries say that women's ordination is impossible.

The Thai Sangha does not recognise Dhammananda and seven other Bhikkhunis who were fully ordained in Sri Lanka as valid Theravada Bhikkhunis.

However, the Dalai Lama said the ordination of female Buddhist monks was possible and vowed to fully support the introduction of full ordination for female Buddhists. "I express my full support for the establishment of the Bhikshuni Sangha in the Tibetan tradition," the Dalai Lama said on the final day of the "International Congress on Buddhist Womens' Role in the Sangha: Bhikshuni Vinaya and Ordination Lineages" at the University of Hamburg.

While monks and female monks are known as Bhikkhus and Bhikkhunis in Theravada Buddhism, they are called Bhikshu and Bhikshuni in other lineages.

The three-day conference, which received financial support of 50,000 Swiss francs (Bt1.4 million) from the Dalai Lama himself, was the first in decades to directly address the reestablishment of fully ordained female Buddhist monks in Tibet, said organiser Bhikshuni Jampa Tsedroen. The conference brought together nearly 300 Buddhist scholars and senior monks from Buddhist centres around the world to establish an international consensus on whether the ordination of women was valid and, if so, how and when full ordination for women should take place, she said.

Despite unanimous support from all international monasteries, the details of the rituals still need to be worked out in such a way that they will be accepted by the Tibetan Sangha, said the Dalai Lama.

The re-establishment of full Bhikkhuni ordination is not unprecedented. In 1998 Sri Lanka reintroduced full ordination for female Buddhist monks, with the endorsement of all senior Sri Lankan Bhikkhus.

The Dalai Lama also said he recognised Bhikshunis who practise in the Tibetan tradition but receive full ordination from another lineage, and urged them to practise three primary monastic activities - Posadha, Vassa and Pavarana - as preparation for the establishment of a Bhikkhuni Sangha in the near future.

The situation of Bhikkhunis in Thailand also prompted attention from several international monasteries at the congress. "I travelled to Thailand last year and was disheartened to see that there are no Bhikkhunis in Thailand," said Bhikshuni Dr Mzongsong Sunim, president of the National Bhikshuni Assembly for the Korean Buddhist Jogye Order. "It is very important for Thailand to introduce the ordination. Every morning I pray for this to happen."

Bhikkhu Sujato, founder of Australian Santi Forest Monastry near Sydney, said he supported full ordination for Thai female monks. "If it is their wish, whether the monks agree or not, they should have that right," he said. "Also, the Thai Sangha should realise that Thai Theravada Buddhism does not exist by itself, but is a part of a greater Buddhism community."

Bhikkhuni Dhammananda, who runs a monastery in Nakhon Pathom, said she would use this international support to continue her work to introduce Bhikkhunis in Thailand. "I have been witnessing more positive trends in Thai society, as there are a increasing numbers of Bhikkhunis as well as more women who want to be ordained," she said. "Whether the Thai Sangha accepts it or not, things are opening up."
 
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 21/11/2007 11:08:37 ( #215 )
Baptism Seen as Unifying Sacrament
Archbishop Forte Says There Is Bond Among Believers


CHIETI, Italy, NOV. 19, 2007 (Zenit.org).- There is a bond that exists among all the baptized that is stronger than their differences, says a renowned archbishop-theologian. Archbishop Bruno Forte of Chieti-Vasto said this in his pastoral letter for the year 2007-2008, titled "The Water of Life: Baptism and the Beauty of God."

The Italian prelate said that the Church has from the beginning "followed in the footsteps of the Master, proposing to whoever wished to encounter Jesus an itinerary similar to that which he showed to the disciples of John the Baptist."

"For an adult who seeks baptism," he continued, "it is a true itinerary of Christian initiation that unites catechesis and a progressive experience of God's gift. For one who was baptized as a child, the path coincides with the education in the faith."

Archbishop Forte, a member of the International Theological Commission, suggests two fundamental meanings of baptism: liberation from evil and the "decisive encounter with Christ, who will permit us to live all our existence as a story of friendship with him in the communion of the Church."

The proclamation of the Gospel, he said, is a necessary requisite for baptism, even though in past years this duty of the baptized "was almost discounted and the importance of preparation for baptism was rather neglected."

"In the complex society in which we live, multireligious and multicultural, the urgency of proclaiming the faith and of Christ's call to conversion shows itself in all its necessity," observed the 58-year-old prelate. In the baptism of a child, continued the archbishop, this urgency looks above all to the parents, whose catechesis in preparation for the baptism of their child is "indispensable."

Eternal life

Commenting on the baptismal rite, Archbishop Forte said it begins with a dialogue: "The parents are asked if they want their child to be baptized, and what they hope for from baptism. The response is the echo of the deepest expectation of the human heart: eternal life. "He who receives baptism is not alone: God who is love will guard you always."

He continued: "In the celebration of baptism we are called to say 'no' to sin and to the seductions of Satan, meaning a life based on appearances, on egoism and lies, which will separate us from God and others so as to affirm ourselves, living the illusion of being able to be happy without loving. "At the same time, we are called to say 'yes' to God who is love, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It is a 'yes' expressed by the word 'I believe,' with which we surrender ourselves totally to God. To this profession of faith, the living God responds making us enter a covenant of love with him: a covenant so faithful, that our belonging to him and the Church can never be lost, whatever our infidelities and rejections may be."

Ecumenical

"Thanks to the gift of baptism," said Archbishop Forte, "we have the certainty of belonging always to God, and we can experience the sweetness of being in the hands of one who will never betray us."  He continued: "This definitive relationship with God consists fittingly of the 'character' imprinted by baptism, the bond with him, which thanks to his fidelity cannot be canceled, will unite us always to his family, the Church."

For this reason, the archbishop wrote, "there exists among all the baptized [...] a communion stronger than their differences, which -- although it exists in different degrees -- is the basis of the ecumenical commitment, conducive to overcome the historical divisions among them." The "passion for the unity that Christ wants," confirmed Archbishop Forte, is therefore "inscribed in the same baptismal grace."

http://www.zenit.org/article-21050?l=english
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 29/11/2007 01:29:11 ( #216 )
 
 
 
Western Christians can learn much from Eastern Christians, says pope
Catholic News Service
November 28, 2007

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Christianity is not and never has been a uniquely European phenomenon, and Christians of the West can learn much from the cultural expressions of Eastern Christians, especially those of the early church, Pope Benedict XVI said. "Today it is a common opinion that Christianity is a European religion that exported European culture to other countries, but the reality is much more complicated and complex," he said Nov. 28 at his weekly general audience. "It is not only that the roots of the Christian religion are found in Jerusalem, in the Old Testament, in the Semitic world and Christianity is constantly nourished by these Old Testament roots," he said, "but the expansion of Christianity in the first centuries" went simultaneously West and East. In Europe, but also throughout the Middle East and over to India, "Christianity with a different culture was formed," he said. Christians in the East lived the faith "with their own expressions and cultural identities," demonstrating "the cultural plurality of the one faith from the beginning."
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 02/12/2007 04:47:36 ( #217 )
Pope: Christ Wills Catholic-Orthodox Unity
Sends Letter to Istanbul Patriarch on Feast of St. Andrew


ISTANBUL, Turkey, NOV. 30, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI expressed in a letter to Patriarch Bartholomew I of Istanbul his wish that Catholic-Orthodox dialogue continues to progress toward the union that Christ himself desired.

A Vatican delegation, led by Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, delivered the letter to the Orthodox leader from the Pope today, on the feast of St. Andrew, patron of the ecumenical patriarch.

The aide also presented to the Orthodox patriarch a signed copy of the Pontiff's encyclical "Spe Salvi," and a reproduction of the "Mystical Lamb" from the dome of the Church of St. Vital of Ravenna, Italy.

The visit reciprocates the habitual exchange of delegations for the respective patronal feasts in which Bartholomew I sends a delegation to Rome on June 29, the feast of Sts. Peter and St. Paul, and the Pope sends a delegation to Istanbul on Nov. 30. Last year, the Holy Father led the delegation himself.

In the letter, Benedict XVI recalled his visit to Istanbul, and said that the practice of exchanging delegations represents an authentic sign "of the commitment of our Churches to an ever deeper communion, strengthened through cordial personal relations, prayer and the dialogue of charity and truth."

Referring to the 10th plenary session of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue Between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, held in October in Ravenna, the Pope said that even though the meeting "was not without its difficulties, I pray earnestly that these may soon be clarified and resolved, so that there may be full participation in the 11th plenary session and in subsequent initiatives aimed at continuing the theological dialogue in mutual charity and understanding."

Work in progress

He continued: "Indeed, our work toward unity is according to the will of Christ our Lord. In these early years of the third millennium, our efforts are all the more urgent because of the many challenges facing all Christians, to which we need to respond with a united voice and with conviction."

A communiqué published Thursday by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity said that both Rome and Constantinople, "after dedicating themselves in many forms to the reactivation of theological dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches," look at the conclusions of the plenary session "with feelings of hope."

The concluding document of the meeting, it added, "can in fact encourage future dialogue, and constituted the first step toward the deepening of those painful themes which prevent full communion between Eastern and Western Christians."

Monsignor Eleuterio Fortino, undersecretary of the Christian unity council, said today in the Italian edition of L'Osservatore Romano that the Ravenna conclusions are "important because Catholics and Orthodox have agreed upon a common theological and ecclesiological platform regarding the foundation of the discussion of the primacy of the Bishop of Rome."

[Marta Lago contributed to this article]

http://www.zenit.org/article-21159?l=english
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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 02/12/2007 04:48:59 ( #218 )
Dear friends,

If you are just joining us, you may be interested to know that our potential reunion with the Orthodox has implications for women's ordination.  Though the ordained women's diaconate no longer functions in our Church as it did at one time (for more about this see:



the women's diaconate survived for a much longer time in the eastern Churches and in fact, is in the process of being restored in some of them.
For more about this, see here:


If reuinification is a possibility, then reconsideration of the prohibition against women's ordination will be a key matter requiring address.
 
with love and blessings,


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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 04/12/2007 06:33:38 ( #219 )
Pope, Patriarch pledge ecumenical progress 
 
Istanbul, Dec. 3, 2007 (CWNews.com) - Cardinal Walter Kasper led a high-level Vatican delegation to Istanbul to join Patriarch Bartholomew I in celebrating the feast of St. Andrew, the patron of the Constantinople see, on November 30.
 

Pool photo by Kai Pfaffenbach
Patriarch Bartholomew, right, spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians, met with Pope Benedict XVI at their November 2006 meeting.

Following what has become an annual tradition, the secretary of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity brought the greetings of the Pope to the Constantinople patriarchate. (Patriarch Bartholomew has sent his own delegation to Rome each year, to join the Pope in celebrating the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul on June 29.) This year Cardinal Kasper brought the Orthodox prelate a signed copy of the Pope's newly published encyclical, Spe Salvi.

In his message to Patriarch Bartholomew, the Holy Father recalled his trip to Turkey last year, when he himself joined in the ceremonies for the feast of St. Andrew in Constantinople. The Pontiff also welcomed the progress achieved during an October meeting of the joint Catholic-Orthodox theological commission, in sessions held at Ravenna, Italy.

The ecumenical discussion was "not without some difficulties," Pope Benedict conceded in his message, and he voiced the hope that "these may soon be clarified and resolved."

The Pope added that ecumenical work is "according to the will of Christ our Lord." In light of the problems facing the contemporary world, he said, that work is "all the more urgent because of the many challenges facing all Christians, to which we need to respond with a united voice and with conviction.
 

Patriarch Bartholomew with Pope John Paul II

In his own homily during the November 30 celebration, Patriarch Bartholomew made a similar point, saying that ecumenical unity is more necessary than ever in the face of advancing secularism and materialism. Christians must join together to lead a recovery of the sacred, he said, relying on the efficacy of the sacraments and the soundness of Christian doctrine.

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RE: Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedict in Turkey - 04/12/2007 06:38:42 ( #220 )
From the Orthodox Archdiocese of Belgium:


 
His All Holiness the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew
 
HIS ALL HOLINESS BARTHOLOMEW
ARCHBISHOP OF CONSTANTINOPLE, NEW ROME AND ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH

 
ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH AND ECUMENICAL PATRIARCHATE :

The Ecumenical Patriarchate is the primary ecclesiastical centre of the Orthodox Church throughout the world, tracing its history to the Day of Pentecost and the early Christian communities founded by the Apostles of Jesus Christ. According to tradition, the “First-Called” of these Apostles, Andrew, preached the Gospel around Asia Minor, the Black Sea, Thrace and Achaia, where he was martyred. In 36AD, he founded the Church on the shores of the Bosphorus in the city known then as Byzantium, later Constantinople and today Istanbul. St. Andrew is the Patron Saint of the Ecumenical Patriarchate; his Patronal Feast is celebrated on November 30.

The title
“Ecumenical Patriarch”
dates from the sixth century and historically belongs to the Archbishop of Constantinople exclusively. As Archbishop of Constantinople-New Rome, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew occupies the First Throne of the Orthodox Christian Church worldwide, presiding in historical honor and fraternal spirit among all Orthodox Primates. These include the ancient Patriarchates of Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem, as well as the more recent Patriarchates of Moscow, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia. Beyond these, the Ecumenical Patriarch has the historical and theological responsibility to initiate and coordinate activity among the Orthodox Churches of Cyprus, Greece, Poland, Albania, the Czech Lands and Slovakia, Finland, Estonia, as well as various Archdioceses and Metropolitan dioceses throughout the world, such as in Europe, America, Asia and Australia. Moreover, he is responsible for convening pan-Orthodox councils or meetings, facilitating inter-church and inter-faith dialogues, while serving as the focal point and primary spokesman for Orthodox Church unity as a whole. Transcending national and ethnic borders, the Ecumenical Patriarch is spiritual leader to some 300 million Orthodox Christians world-wide.


BIOGRAPHY :

 
His All Holiness Bartholomew, Archbishop of Constantinople, New Rome and Ecumenical Patriarch (in the world Dimitrios Archondonis) was born in 1940 on the island of Imbros (today, Gokceada, Turkey). He was elected in October 1991 as the 270th Archbishop of the 2000-year-old Church founded by St. Andrew, serving as Archbishop of Constantinople-New Rome and Ecumenical Patriarch.

The personal experience and theological formation of the Ecumenical Patriarch
provide him with a unique perspective on ecumenical relations and environmental issues. His All Holiness has worked tirelessly for reconciliation among Christian Churches and acquired an international reputation for raising environmental awareness throughout the world. He has worked to advance reconciliation with the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Communion, as well as other confessions, through theological dialogues and personal encounters with respective leaders in order to address issues of common concern. Closely involved with the World Council of Churches, he has served on its Executive and Central Committees and Faith and Order Commission. Moreover, he has initiated numerous international meetings and conversations with Muslim and Jewish leaders in an effort to promote mutual respect and religious tolerance on a global level, thereby proving a pioneer in interfaith encounters throughout the world. Finally, the Ecumenical Patriarch has also presided over the historic restoration of the Autocephalous Church of Albania and the Autonomous Church of Estonia, providing spiritual and moral support to many traditional Orthodox countries emerging from decades of wide-scale religious persecution behind the Iron Curtain.

A citizen of Turkey,
Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew received his elementary and secondary education
in Imvros and Istanbul. After completing undergraduate studies at the Theological School of Halki, Istanbul, His All Holiness pursued graduate studies at the Pontifical Oriental Institute of the Gregorian University in Rome, the Ecumenical Institute in Bossey (Switzerland) and the University of Munich. His doctoral dissertation was in Canon Law; he was a founding member of the Society of Law of the Oriental Churches. Ordained to the Diaconate in 1961 and to the Priesthood in 1969, he served as Assistant Dean at the Theological School of Halki (1968-72) before being appointed Personal Secretary to his predecessor, the late Ecumenical Patriarch Demetrios (1972-90), as well as being elected Metropolitan of Philadelphia (1973) and, later, Metropolitan of Chalcedon (1990).

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew holds numerous honorary doctorates
, from prestigious academic institutions such as the universities of Athens, Thessaloniki, Patras and Ioannina (in Greece), Georgetown and Yale (in the USA), Flinders in Australia and Manila (in Australasia), London, Edinburgh, Louvain, Moscow, Bologna and Bucharest (in Europe). He speaks contemporary Greek, Turkish, Italian, German, French and English; he is also fluent in classical Greek and Latin.

The role of the Ecumenical Patriarch
as the primary spiritual leader of the Orthodox Christian world and transnational figure of global significance continues to grow increasingly vital. His All Holiness has co-sponsored international peace conferences, as well as meetings on the subjects of racism and fundamentalism, bringing together Christians, Muslims and Jews for the purpose of generating greater cooperation and mutual understanding. He has been invited to address the European Parliament, Unesco, the World Economic Forum, as well as numerous national parliaments. He has organized six international, inter-faith and inter-disciplinary symposia to address ecological problems in the rivers and seas of the world, initiatives earning him the title “Green Patriarch” and the award of several significant environmental awards.

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew’s tenure has been characterized by inter-Orthodox cooperation, inter-Christian and inter-religious dialogue, as well as by formal trips to Orthodox and Muslim countries seldom previously visited. He has exchanged numerous invitations of Church and State dignitaries. His efforts to promote religious freedom and human rights, his initiatives to advance religious tolerance among the world’s religions, together with his work toward international peace and environmental protection have justly placed him at the forefront of global visionaries as an apostle of love, peace and reconciliation. In 1997, he was awarded the Gold Medal of the United States Congress.



Address:
The Ecumenical Patriarchate
Fatih – Haliç 34220
Istanbul, Turkey
Tel. +90.212/531.96.70 thru 76
Fax: +90.212/531.65.33
E-mail: Patriarchate@ec-patr.org
Website: http://www.ec-patr.org

Nameday: June 11

Date of ordination: December 25, 1973
 
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