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RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Benedic... - 25/3/2007 10:34:45 PM   
Sophie


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Dear friends,

As we have discussed earlier, the Orthodox and Catholic Churches were once  one united Church.  Separated by the Great Schism of 1054, ecumenical dialogue and negotiations are being actively pursued by both sides (this was part of the reason for Pope Benedict's recent visit to Turkey-- see the beginning of this thread.)

Though the Orthodox Church does not yet have women priests, their faith community is currently engaged in discussions about women's ordination just as we are.  And women's sacramental ordination to the diaconate has recently been restored in the Greek Orthodox Church.  (See our dialogue thread: the view from the Greek Orthodox Church.) What is the Orthodox view of women  priests? Jean Mercler's interview with two Orthodox theologians,  Elisabeth Behr-Sigel and Nicolas Lossky offers the following perspective.  A sidebar: Professor Lossky's humble admission that he "has overcome childhood hangups over seeing a woman at the altar" brought a smile to my face!   

Please enjoy!

With love and blessings,
~Sophie~

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WOMEN PRIESTS AS SEEN BY ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS
Interviews with Elisabeth Behr-Sigel and Nicolas Lossky by Jean Mercler
ACTUALITE - A.R.M. 120, 15 March 1994  translated by Colin Williams, Perth.
Archives: MaryMartha, volume 3 , number 3/4 , October1994

Today, no Orthodox Church anywhere in the world ordains women priests. However,there is some movement in this area. To the extent that in November 1988, the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople organised in Rhodes "an inter-orthodox consultation on the place of women in the Church and the ordination of women."  For the first time in the history of the Orthodox Church, women took part in a high-level ecclesiastical conference. Despite a call for a possible re-establishment of women deacons, women priests were rejected. We questioned two Orthodox theologians who have considered the matter.

Elisabeth Behr-Sigel - (author of The Ministry of Women in the Church)

"The Orthodox Church can no longer allow itself to say that it is a subject which does not concern it. Today roughly a third of theology students in the Orthodox seminary of St Vladimir in New York are women. At the Institut Saint Serge in Paris, women are given the responsibility for reading theology. I am not saying that women must be ordained in the Orthodox Church tomorrow. I am saying that the matter must be investigated, What shocks me about the refusal to make women priests is that people argue that women cannot receive the gifts of ordination because after all the priesthood emanates from Christ. He is the only Priest and we are all united to his priesthood. In this context, some people are set aside by virtue of particular gifts/charisms to take on the pastoral charge. It is clear in the early church, women fulfilled functions that they no longer fulfill today because one only has the right to them through ordination.  Against the ordination of women some people raise the powerful symbolism of  "Christ, Bridegroom of the Church". The priest, Icon of Christ, ought therefore be a man.  He also is marrying the Church. This concept comes from the idea of a sexual relationship where the man inseminates and the woman receives. This symbol of the Bridegroom Christ is an image to say that the Church is totally dependent and receptive in its relationship to Christ, which is true, Having said that, this symbol is not to be taken for a biological or anthropological reality. Furthermore, the priest does not represent Christ but the Church. At the crucial and solemn moment of the Liturgy, the epeclesls, the priest asks for the Holy Spirit's presence with the gifts and "with us." He represents the Church at that moment.


Also, individuality transcends sex. Differences of function within the Church are based on Charisma, on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. St Paul affirms that these gifts are distributed to individuals and are according to sex. Men and women are different psychologically and biologically, but they can fulfill the same function in different ways. One must guard against restricting men and women within ontological definition. Fortunately, human vices and virtues are equally distributed. The argument, based on the idea of difference, that says women have other things to do than become priests is therefore irrelevant. Orthodox Christians must ask themselves if the ordination of women brings into question the whole faith in a church and the Orthodox understanding of the ministry of the priesthood. Is it no more a matter for the historical expression of this ministry? An area where variation, evolution, some degree of pluralism, are not only permissible but desirable. In the line of interpreting signs of the times, under the guidance of the Church to whom Christ himself invites his disciples. For my part, I hope to play down the matter. For the moment my thoughts are not considered heresy."

Nicolas Lossky - Professor of Church History in the Institute of Saint Serge.  He teaches the history of the Church of England at Nanterre, and directs the Advance Institute of Ecumenical Studies at the Institut Catholique de Paris

"It is said that the priest represents Christ, in particular in the Eucharist. But Ignatius of Antioch said that the priest is in the place of Christ and not that he represents him. The Eucharist is not a re-enactment but a memorial.There is no objection to women in Christ's place. We are all equal in Him. I have overcome childhood hangups over seeing a woman at the altar. It does not shock me. But this is not the question. The real question is : what gives us the right to exclude women from this charisma simply because they are women? I do not know if it is right to ordain women, but to say it can't be done because it has not been done for 2000 years no longer seems valid to me. Orthodox Christians must get to work starting from this question. It opens up the real debate over the universal ministry of those baptised and the specific ministry of various functions within the Church.

It also poses the question of the difference within the Church between power and authority. The authority of the Church is not that of one person, it is shared. No part of tbe body can say to another l have no need of you (1Cor. 12). If there are one day women priests in the Orthodox Church it will be the result of unanimous agreement achieved by listening to the Holy Spirit. This ministry will be all the more difficult to achieve in that this question is new and comes from outside. Moreover there is no unanimity to say why the Church must not ordain women. It seems to me that is can no longer afford not to debate the question".


http://members.iinet.net.au/~mmjournl/MaryMartha/MINISTRY%20AND%20ORDINATION%20/women%20priests.html

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RE: RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Ben... - 27/3/2007 11:04:35 PM   
Sophie


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Dear friends,

The Jewish Theological Seminary of America (JTS) has just announced its decision to open its doors to gays and lesbians who want to become rabbis and cantors. JTS is one of Conservative Judaism's academic and spiritual centres. Although this decision is not specifically about women priests, it illustrates how a conservative faith community embraces progressive change. In a letter that follows,  JTS Chancellor Arnold Eisen explains the decision and how it was reached. His letter caught my interest for several reasons:
  • it illustrates how a conservative faith community embraces progressive change
  • it illustrates how a conservative faith community deals with scriptural issues when adopting that change
  • it looks at the questions of how to remain faithful to tradition and 'Law' while being part of contemporary society
  • it explains how a conservative faith institution engages in consultative collaborative community decision making when it pursues new directions
  • the decision making process and letter illustrate how JTS models leadership to its faith community. Can our own leadership learn from this? Is the process JTS used something our own Church leadership is required to do but is not?

First of all, here is  the HAARATZ.com newsreport of the announcement.  A copy of Chancellor Eisen's letter then follows.

Let me know what you think.

With love and blessings,
~Sophie~

NY Jewish seminary to accept gay students
By Shlomo Shamir , Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters
March 27, 2007

A Conservative Jewish seminary in New York has agreed to admit gays and lesbians who want to become rabbis and cantors, but declined to take a stand on whether rabbis should officiate at same-sex unions. While most Orthodox Jews ban same-sex unions or gay rabbis, and Reform Jews have accepted them for years, Conservative Jews have been split with sentiment growing for acceptance. A survey commissioned by the seminary and released in January showed 65 percent of Conservative rabbis in favor of allowing gay and lesbian rabbis and cantors compared to 28 percent who were opposed.

"This is really historic. It took a lot of leadership," said Jake Goodman, a member of Keshet, a group at the seminary that has advocated gay rights within the Conservative movement.

The chancellor of the New York seminary, Arnold Eisen, told Haaretz that he made the decision after a long and tedious process of consulting with hundreds of Conservative Jews, rabbis, cantors, educators, students and lay leaders from the United States and abroad. He found there was widespread support for admitting gays to the seminar, he said. "The immediate issue for congregations and rabbis is whether they are going to do commitment ceremonies. Each congregation will have to decide whether it hires gay and lesbian clergy," Eisen said. The wider problem is how to remain faithful to tradition and halakha while being part of our society, he said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=842223&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

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RE: RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Ben... - 27/3/2007 11:10:47 PM   
Sophie


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The following letter from Jewish Theological Seminary Chancellor, Arnold Eisen explains the decision to admit gays and lesbians to ordination. A move transition being made not without great struggle, for the Conservative Jewish community, it represents a departure from Jewish law and age-old Jewish custom. Chancellor Eisen's letter is interesting to us who support women priests from several perspectives. One is his beautiful statement:

Our sages found ways two millennia ago to limit the applicability of biblical statutes, one famous example being Deuteronomy' s injunction to put the rebellious son to death. The Rabbis effectively rendered that injunction unenforceable. They have defined and limited the applicability of numerous other biblical ordinances, including some set forth in Leviticus.

Hmmmm....what can we learn from this?!!! Another interesting perspective is the consultative decision making process that modelled by leaders of this community. The process of discernment admirably involves input from everyone. Is this something our own Church might learn from? Is this something our own Church is already required to do? If you are interested in learning more about these perspectives from our own Church point of view (and their impact on the ordination of women) you might consider spending some time perusing articles in our thread Women Priests as Viewed from the Authority of the Magisterium where you should also stay tuned for more!

Halakha, by the way, means the body of 'Jewish Law.' Though it is often translated to mean just that, 'The Law,' it means something more like 'the way of walking' or 'the path.' In this sense, it guides not only religious practices and beliefs, but numerous aspects of day-to-day life.

~s~
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From Arnold M. Eisen
Chancellor-elect

To the JTS Community:

I write to announce that, effective immediately, The Jewish Theological Seminary will accept qualified gay and lesbian students to our rabbinical and cantorial schools. This matter has aroused thoughtful introspection about the nature and future of both JTS and the Conservative Movement to a degree not seen in our community since the decision to admit women to The Rabbinical School nearly twenty-five years ago. Convictions and feelings are strong on both sides. Some will cheer this decision as justice long overdue. Others will condemn it as a departure from Jewish law and age-old Jewish custom. One thing is abundantly clear: after years of discussion and debate, heartfelt and thoughtful division on the matter is evident among JTS faculty, students, and administration. The same is true of professionals and lay leaders of the Conservative Movement. For many of us, the issue runs deep inside ourselves.

Those of us who undertook the ordination discussion at JTS acted not as poskim, or legal adjudicators - that responsibility fell to the Committee on Jewish Law and Standards of the Rabbinical Assembly (CJLS) - but as educators charged with setting standards for our unique academic institution. From the outset, as we set about considering what JTS should do on this matter, three steps seemed necessary. First, our decision would be preceded by a deliberate and careful process in which the views of all constituencies would be respectfully heard and patiently considered. The positions of both sides would be thought through and the likely consequences weighed. This process is now complete. I will review its elements below. Second, the announcement of JTS's decision would lay out our thinking on the matter in detail commensurate with the gravity and complexity of the decision. Third, the announcement would conclude one process while beginning another. We resolved to take action that would help bring our movement closer together. To that end, we have launched - and in coming months will help to lead - a full-scale process of learning and discussion among all constituencies of Conservative Judaism aimed at a reclarification of our principles and a recommitment to our practices. Its specific focus will be mitzvah: our sense of being commanded and how we exercise that responsibility. The first steps taken in this new process are outlined below.

For me personally, these questions about core principles and practices are at the heart of the discussion in which we have been engaged this past year. The immediate issue was the ordination of gay and lesbian students as rabbis and cantors for the Conservative Movement. But the larger issue has been how we can remain true to our tradition in general and to halakhah in particular while staying fully responsive to and immersed in our society and culture. How shall we learn Torah, live Torah, teach Torah in this time and place? Without these imperatives, the decision before us would have been far easier for many of those involved. That is certainly true for me. The decision, then, has for many of us been far from plain or simple. I say this despite my strong conviction that the decision I am announcing here is the right one. Let me now explain why I believe it to be so.

The Process: As I announced the day I was named Chancellor-elect of JTS nearly a year ago, the first responsibility for considering ordination of gay and lesbian students at JTS lay with the CJLS. If the CJLS ruled in a way that permitted this step, the JTS faculty would take up the matter. I pledged to take faculty opinion strongly into account if the time came for the JTS administration to make a decision. The Conservative Movement has from the outset defined itself as bound by halakhah. This aspect of our tradition is precious to me, and it has always been determinative for JTS. It is one of the major ways the Conservative Movement navigates the complex path of change inside inherited tradition. Part of being a halakhic movement is debate over what that means: how halakhah relates to aggadah; how the authority of the rabbis relates to that of the communities they lead and serve; how change can be both adequate and authentic. But even as debate on these and other issues has proceeded, Conservative rabbis acting through the CJLS have for more than half a century considered how best to interpret and apply halakhah in particular circumstances. Their rulings have been all the more important, and more contentious, when circumstances were new and challenging. The decision concerning ordination of women was a case in point. So, too, is the question of gay and lesbian ordination. The CJLS first took up the question about fifteen years ago, debated it again over the past several years, and voted on it at its meeting this past December.

The Law Committee issued a split decision on December 6, 2006, a result in keeping with its commitment to halakhic pluralism. The teshuvah by Rabbis Dorff, Nevins, and Reisner permitting ordination of gays and lesbians received the same number of votes as the one by Rabbi Roth that prohibited it. This paved the way for the discussion at JTS to go forward, and the matter passed to the hands of the faculty. Even before the December CJLS vote, JTS had initiated forums at which students could make their opinions known to one another as well as to the faculty and administration. These student forums continued after the Law Committee's vote. JTS administration and faculty explained to students what the CJLS had ruled and discussed with them what possibilities lay ahead for the future of the institution. Administrative committees also began meeting before December 6. These committees convened with increasing frequency in the weeks following the CJLS decision. Their discussions are ongoing. The Board of Trustees, at its meeting on December 7, discussed at length the process and its potential outcomes. The members of the board also aired questions and shared concerns and advice about the question at previous and subsequent meetings.

Immediately following the Law Committee decision, JTS, along with the Rabbinical Assembly and the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, commissioned an international survey of the opinions held by Conservative rabbis, cantors, educators, and lay leaders regarding the ordination question. We also polled the student groups most affected by the decision: those at JTS. Sociologist Steven M. Cohen undertook construction and analysis of the survey for us pro bono. We were unable due to constraints of time and budget to include rank-and-file members of Conservative congregations. Nor did we reach every single movement leader. However, many who were not polled directly did fill out and submit the survey that was posted on the JTS website. I have personally heard from hundreds of Conservative Jews on the matter during my travels around the country this year and through correspondence, email, and the JTS website. The survey findings showed consistent majorities of roughly two-thirds or more in favor of ordination. Rabbis and cantors endorsed the move by almost exactly that majority. Conservative educators, executive directors, and other professionals were in favor 76% to 16% (with others undecided). Lay leaders voted for it 69% to 22%. JTS rabbinical students did so by a much slimmer majority (58% to 32%), as did the cantorial students (58% to 21%). Clergy in Israel were split down the middle. Respondents in Canada were overwhelmingly against ordination. We undertook this survey as one factor among many informing our decision, not in order to have it dictate policy. The choice to ordain - or not to ordain- gay and lesbian Jews as rabbis and cantors at JTS will, as I have noted, have immediate and significant consequences for the Conservative Movement. We wanted to learn how the leadership of the movement, lay and professional, felt about the matter. For the same reason, I spoke at great length in January with the heads of the other Conservative/ Masorti seminaries. I reported on these conversations, as well as on the Cohen survey, to both the faculty and the Board of Trustees.

The Faculty Executive Committee, at my request, accepted the task of designing a process by which members of the Faculty Assembly could inform themselves and give their opinions on the matter. Each person weighed the factors involved - including halakhah - as he or she saw fit. The faculty's input would contribute significantly in JTS's decision, I told them, but their opinions would not be binding. I myself took no position in the faculty debate. The Executive Committee, working with these guidelines, set up a series of faculty meetings. JTS administration assisted the process by arranging for two seminars led by distinguished guest lecturers on (1) recent developments in psychiatry and in its attitude toward homosexuality, and (2) philosophy of Jewish law. Several faculty meetings were devoted entirely to discussing and debating the matter. The voting members of the Faculty Assembly filled out private ballots and gave them to the Faculty Executive Committee, which then passed them on to me. The faculty asked, since their vote was not binding, that I report their response but keep exact numbers confidential. I subsequently reported the result of this ballot to the Faculty Assembly and to the Board of Trustees. An overwhelming majority of those eligible to participate did so. A substantial majority of these favored the admission of gay and lesbian students to the rabbinical and cantorial schools. Quite a few, in keeping with my request, included detailed accounts of their reasoning. I will draw on these letters below. At no stage did we at JTS take up the question of gay and lesbian commitment ceremonies or marriages. That matter is entirely outside our purview; decision on it rests with the Law Committee and with individual rabbis and congregations. Our concern was ordination alone. The final stage in the process of reaching our decision rested with the JTS administration. We wrapped up our discussions earlier this month. Ultimate responsibility for the decision rested with me. I turn now to the reasoning behind it.

The Decision: Many participants in this process - whether rabbis on the Law Committee, faculty and students at JTS, members of the Board of Trustees, or leaders of the Conservative Movement - have experienced and explained it as a tug of war between two goods: fidelity to Jewish law and tradition and our sense of conscience as contemporary American Jews. How does one remain true to the dictates of tradition and yet adapt that tradition in ways compatible with changing realities and convictions? Both imperatives compel us. Both are precious to us. Several faculty members explained in their letters to me that they felt this tug in opposite directions acutely. We in the JTS administration have certainly felt this way. The search for balance is what has made the decision difficult. It is also what has made the discussion rich and, by and large, respectful. It has not been a matter of how "we" the community of Conservative Jews should treat "them" - gays and lesbians. The latter are highly valued and respected members of our Conservative communities. Those opposed to the change, as much as those in favor of it, have taken pains to assert that this is the case. That is why, even while denying gays and lesbians the right to ordination and commitment ceremonies in 1992 on the basis of its reading of Jewish law, the CJLS affirmed - likewise on the basis of Jewish law - that "gays and lesbians are welcome in our congregations, youth groups, camps, and schools."

Those opposing ordination have done so, almost without exception, for one reason only: they believe that Jewish law forbids it. Modifying established law on this score, they maintain, would weaken or destroy the halakhic character of Conservative Judaism. Some are convinced, moreover, that a modification of this sort would open the way for other, even more radical changes. But still others are equally convinced of the opposite: that failure to make this change would declare the incompatibility of Jewish law and tradition with Jewish life today, discourage young people from joining the movement, and therefore negatively impact Conservative Judaism. As Conservative Jews, we all sought the middle ground between the demands of tradition and the demands of life that has long distinguished our movement. We at JTS, as I said earlier, were not called upon to make a legal decision. Our task was to weigh all relevant factors and decide what the right thing was for JTS and for the movement we serve. I, like most of my colleagues, was uncomfortable with the notion of choosing between two teshuvot that had been adopted as legitimate by the Law Committee using time-tested procedures. To reject the propriety of the CJLS process in this matter would call into question, after the fact, the mechanism by which law has been decided in the movement - and has governed JTS policy - for decades. Nevertheless, halakhah had to be a major factor in our thinking. We are an institution committed to the teaching and practice of Torah. In order to decide in favor of ordination, the rabbinic decision allowing for it had to be credible or persuasive in our eyes. Let me explain my own thinking on these matters.

I begin by directly confronting the two major obstacles standing in the way of a credible stance allowing for gay and lesbian ordination. The first is Leviticus chapter 18, verse 22. "Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman; it is abomination (to'eva)." Is the text not crystal clear? Is it not God's word? Why, then, were learned rabbis (and the rest of us) even debating the acceptability of homosexuality? The question has been posed to me many times. It cannot be avoided by any Jew who takes the Torah seriously. No matter how complicated our relationship to the Torah, how much we move away from obedience to its rules, or whatever our views on the divine or human nature of its authorship - one cannot cavalierly dismiss Leviticus and then claim faithfulness to the larger tradition of Torah of which the Five Books of Moses are the core. Integrity and authenticity require more than this. Moreover, if one claims to be a halakhic Jew, the Oral Torah (as we call Jewish law and teaching over the centuries) also weighs in with serious objection to ordaining gays and lesbians. There is precious little legal precedent that can be invoked in favor of such ordination in the entire 2,000-year history of the Jewish rabbinic tradition. One finds instead either reaffirmation of previous opinion or utter silence on the matter - though there are legal opinions urging welcome of and compassion toward homosexuals. To Conservative Jews, the weight of Rabbinic opinion is no less decisive than the words of the Torah, and it is arguably more so. As Solomon Schechter explained a century ago, "It is not the mere revealed Bible that is of first importance to the Jew, but the Bible as it repeats itself in history, in other words, as it is interpreted by tradition." That is why the fact of Leviticus 18:22 in and of itself did not free the CJLS or any other Conservative Jew from the need to debate the matter of gay and lesbian ordination.

Our sages found ways two millennia ago to limit the applicability of biblical statutes, one famous example being Deuteronomy' s injunction to put the rebellious son to death. The Rabbis effectively rendered that injunction unenforceable. They have defined and limited the applicability of numerous other biblical ordinances, including some set forth in Leviticus. I am among the faculty members (including many rabbis and experts in Talmud) who are persuaded by the argument that established procedures of halakhah allow for and mandate revision of the legal limitations placed upon homosexual activity; or perhaps one should say that these procedures allow for and mandate expansion of the welcome and acceptance accorded homosexuals under previous Law Committee rulings. We believe that the law can be modified, and therefore should be modified, in accord with our society's changed knowledge about and moral attitudes toward homosexuality, knowledge and attitudes far different than those of our ancestors that guided their reading of law and tradition. Core Jewish teachings such as the imperative to treat every human being with full respect as a creature in God's image urge us strongly in this direction. We do not alter established belief and behavior casually. But we are convinced that change in this case is permitted and required, precisely in order to preserve the tradition charged with guiding us in greatly altered circumstances.

For we are Conservative Jews. The question facing us now, as always, is what the tradition as a whole commands us to do. Members of our community disagree about the correct answer to that question and about the proper method of answering it but not, I think, about the nature or urgency of the question itself. As Conservative Jews, we know that halakhah has a history. The fact of its development and change over time, partly in response to altered circumstances, ways of thinking, and moral convictions, was proclaimed by Zacharias Frankel at the very outset of the movement. It is a given in scholarship on Jewish law as well. The CJLS debate and the discussion in its wake follow from these principles of Conservative Judaism. The debate over ordination of gay and lesbian students has served to highlight the need for serious discussion and resolution of these key issues of principle concerning what halakhah means for Conservative Jews. Such disagreements are particularly vexing to Conservative Jewish laypeople frustrated at the movement's inability to decide this and other matters quickly and unequivocally. Others, myself included, while no less impatient at times, actually take pride in the fact that our movement struggles over issues such as these. We do so as the heirs to Frankel's founding declaration of our purpose: "the reconciliation of belief and life, the assurance of progress within our faith, and the refining and regeneration of Judaism from and through itself." Both sides of the current debate have acted in accord with Frankel's call for "maintaining the integrity of Judaism simultaneously with progress." This remains, as he wrote in 1844, "the essential problem of the present." We cannot, any more than he could, "deny the difficulty of a satisfactory solution." But we must find a solution.

I believe, with the great majority of my colleagues on the JTS faculty, that the Law Committee, by voting in equal numbers for the two teshuvot, provided halakhic authorization for the ordination of openly gay and lesbian rabbinical and cantorial students. That permission having been given, I believe that the nature of our communities in contemporary America, and the moral convictions we hold, argue strongly for accepting gay and lesbian students for ordination. So does the fundamental mission of JTS. I have in my head, as I make this decision, the faces of numerous gay and lesbian students, colleagues and friends who I know would make fine rabbis and cantors. Their moral character is unimpeachable, their leadership ability remarkable. I am confident that they would serve as excellent role models and guides for their communities. We have the responsibility to train qualified gay and lesbian rabbis and cantors as best we can so they can serve the Conservative Movement. Moreover, the decision to ordain gay and lesbian clergy at JTS is in keeping with the longstanding commitment of the Jewish tradition to pluralism. That commitment has been all the more central to Conservative Judaism. Pluralism means we recognize more than one way to be a good Conservative Jew - more than one way of walking authentically in the path of our tradition and of carrying that tradition forward. It means, too, that we respect those who disagree with us and understand that, in the context of all that unites us, diversity makes us stronger.

I take heart from the fact that, despite continuing disagreement over other contentious issues in some quarters, JTS and the Conservative Movement are much stronger because of changes that have occurred over the years. Neither the institution nor the movement has splintered, despite predictions to the contrary. I do not believe that we will splinter now, particularly if we take the proactive steps that I will outline below. Nor do I fear the "slippery slope," used by some as an argument against the change we are adopting. Every choice brings unintended consequences in its wake. We never have control over what those who come after us will do with the legacy we have left them. We do all we can to set course in the proper direction. I trust my successors to act responsibly with the legacy I pass on to them, just as we have carefully weighed the relevant precedents, reasons, and implications before taking the step we are announcing here. We owe this precedent to our successors, this bridge to the reality in which they will be called upon, as we are, to build and strengthen communities of Torah. I am confident that, if they are educated in the principles that have long guided this movement and if they experience the special pleasures and obligations that come with membership in it, they too will make decisions in a manner that takes Conservative Judaism forward and helps its communities, and the Jewish people as a whole, to grow.

In sum: The CJLS has authorized the ordination of gay and lesbian Jews as rabbis and cantors. A solid majority of Conservative clergy and lay leaders supports it. The JTS faculty likewise strongly favors it. I am convinced this decision to ordain is right - right not just on the basis of my experience as a North American who came of age in the latter part of the twentieth century, or as a Jew who seeks above all to remain true to the tradition we call Torah, but as an American Jew seeking wholeness and integrity in the combination of these to the fullest possible extent. That, I believe, is what Conservative Judaism is all about.

The Next Steps: Frankel was clear about the difficulty of this path. "Where is the point where the two apparent contraries should meet?" But he advocated that path nonetheless, as did Solomon Schechter two generations later. I am humbled by the long line of leaders and teachers, wiser and more learned than I, who have found the difficulties of charting this path formidable. But I am also encouraged by the fact that Schechter's resolution of the matter was not Frankel's, and that Louis Finkelstein' s, too, differed from theirs in accordance with the unprecedented challenges that JTS faced in his day. The eminent historian Chancellor Gerson Cohen urged Conservative rabbis in 1972 to shape the movement in a way that was clearly and authentically Jewish but that would "also reflect our own formulation of Judaism, a formulation that will respond to our situation, our needs as Jews in America." That need is once again clear and urgent. How shall we undertake to meet it? The proper way to do so, I believe, is not for JTS to promulgate a set of standards for Conservative belief and behavior. It is, rather, to engage Conservative Jews in discussion of what matters to them and why. Many of us are convinced, on the basis of numerous conversations with clergy and laypeople alike, that many Conservative Jews do feel a keen sense of mitzvah, in all the connotations stored up in that word by the Bible and the sages. They feel that there are deeds they should perform, activities in which they should engage, loyalties they should cherish. They feel responsible for all these, commanded to do them, drawn to the discipline of which they are a part, privileged to perform them. They take on these tasks, in many cases, not only out of obligation but out of love. It is my hope and belief that getting Conservative Jews to talk about these matters will be a step toward greater commitment and consensus. Our communities will be strengthened by the very act of discussing our "obligations of the heart" honestly and face to face. We will come to realize in doing so how much unites us as Conservative Jews. The sense of what binds us together will grow still more if we can arrive at consensus about the norms of belief and behavior that should guide us. I believe we can.

JTS has already taken on the responsibility for leading this discussion. Working with the Chancellor's Rabbinic Cabinet and with the RA and the United Synagogue, we have set in motion a process that we hope will eventually include every arm of the movement as well as professional and lay leaders. Our faculty and students will be actively involved. Stage Two of that process - logically and pedagogically dependent on the first - will be reclarification of the place of halakhah in the movement: the nature, authority, and scope of Jewish law in relation to other sources of authority and guidance. We will embark on that stage in the upcoming two years. Concurrently, we must and will reaffirm the legitimate place in our movement - and at JTS - of all who take part in this debate. Discussion of how and why we feel commanded, and to what, should reinforce the commitment to pluralism on all such points far more effectively than preachments by me or anyone else could ever do. That discussion, face to face and heart to heart, will serve to remind us all how precious it is to be engaged in the ongoing conversation that defines us as members of the JTS community and as Conservative Jews. Finally, because our ultimate goal at JTS is to serve Torah and the Jewish people, we will establish and maintain regular contact on the issues dividing us with Conservative clergy and lay leaders elsewhere in the world. JTS will intensify contact with the Ziegler School of Rabbinic Studies at the University of Judaism in California, the Schechter Institute in Israel, and the Seminario Rabínico Latinoamericano in Argentina and encourage an increased number of joint missions of lay leaders and more exchanges among the faculty and students at these institutions. We will also take special steps to strengthen the relationship between Canadian and American Conservative Jews. All these actions would have been undertaken to some degree by JTS in any case. They form part of our basic mission as an institution. The decision we have just reached renders them urgent. We will respond appropriately in the coming weeks and months.

In closing, I want to thank the many individuals who took the trouble to write to or meet with me, and in particular those who carefully and honestly explained why they were opposed to the move we have now taken. I hope that all will now join me in focusing on the great deal of work ahead of us. As always, I invite your comments, concerns, and assistance.

Thank you.

Arnold M. Eisen
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Denominations within Judaism:

* Orthodox Judaism: Orthodox Jews generally see themselves as practicing normative Judaism, rather than belonging to a particular movement. Within Orthodox Judaism there is a spectrum of communities and practices, including Modern Orthodox Judaism, Haredi Judaism ("ultra-orthodox"), and a variety of movements that have their origins in Hasidic Judaism.
* Conservative Judaism: Also known as Masorti Judaism. Founded in the United States after the division between Reform and Orthodox Judaism, to provide Jews seeking liberalization of Orthodox theology and practice with a more traditional and halakhically based alternative to Reform Judaism. It has spread to Ashkenazi communities in anglophone countries and Israel.
* Reconstructionist Judaism: A small, liberal Jewish movement, found primarily in the United States. It began as a liberal movement within Conservative Judaism and formally separated in the 1980s.
* Reform Judaism: Also known as Progressive Judaism. Originally formed in Germany as a reaction to traditional Judaism, stresses integration with society and a personal interpretation of the Torah.
* Jewish Renewal: Founded in the counter-cultural movements of the 1960s and 1970s, it tends to embrace the ecstatic worship style and mysticism of hasidism, while rejecting the halakhic rigor of Orthodox Judaism. Jewish renewal congregations tend to be inclusive on the subject of who is a Jew. The Jewish Renewal movement lacks the formal institutional structure of the other liberal movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_of_Judaism

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halleluja JTS!  You've shown great leadership both in your decision and collaborative leadership.

Here's hoping the boys at the top of our heap will take note and learn something from you!  

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Even to this day Orthodox Jewish men can be heard to repeat a Morning Prayer, which says, “Blessed art thou, O Lord our God, King of the Universe who has not made men a woman”. Jewish women have traditionally been discouraged from studying the holy Torah or even learning Hebrew. Women have not counted in the minyan (the quorum of ten males required for public religious services), cannot read Torah publicly, and must frequently sit in special locations in the synagogue separated from men.

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Lutheran World Federation Council Meeting & 60th Anniversary Celebrations in Lund, Sweden March 20-27, 2007
Highlights and reflections of the ELCIC's participation at the LWF Council meeting and 60th Anniversary celebrations: http://elcicatlwf. wordpress. com/

It Is About the Diverse Gifts and Witness
Message to Lutheran World Federation Council

LUND, Sweden/GENEVA, 24 March 2007 (LWI):
In 1947, five women were present as delegates at the First Lutheran World Federation (LWF) Assembly held in Lund, Sweden. Sixty years later, in Lund again, almost 150 women participants are attending LWF Council and associated gatherings, including the Conference of Women Bishops and Presidents and regional coordinators of the LWF desk for Women in Church and Society (WICAS) 20-21 March, 2007.

Ms Priscilla Singh, the secretary for WICAS in the LWF Department for Mission and Development, says that the communion has come a long way in implementing women's participation and leadership, and in including the agenda of gender in member churches. "Many people are committed to LWF being an inclusive communion, where women, men and youth not only come together in respect for each other but also live out the gospel more fully."

"This is not only about equality; it is about God's call to all women and men to take part in the building of God's reign," says Singh. "This includes accepting the diverse gifts and witness that women bring as lay leaders, pastors and bishops. We are called to fully live the gospel as the priesthood of all believers - men and women, youth and children."  However, despite the significant milestones that have been reached, including an increasing number of women leaders in the church, there is still much work to be done, according to a message released by the conference participants on 21 March.

The message recommended to the LWF Council that women, including bishops, be involved in inter-confessional and inter-Lutheran dialogues in accordance with the LWF commitment to at least a 40 percent representation of women. The message also called for all LWF member churches to approve the ordination of women and that under full communion agreements the rights and privileges of women bishops be fully supported. The importance of member churches continuing to publicly condemn violence against women was reiterated in the message, with particular attention being drawn to the LWF document Churches Say No to Violence Against Women, which has been translated into 27 languages all over the world, and has been used in training sessions in churches and secular organizations in various parts of the world.

Cultural Influence According to the conference participants, however, some member churches in the LWF communion are yet to put these principles into practice. Rev. Dr Barbara Rossing, chairperson of the Program Committee for the LWF Department of Theology and Studies, says that the commitment to 40 percent representation of women in LWF leadership is not new, "it is just that it has to be applied more firmly. We need to do a better job to fulfill our commitment."  Rossing is concerned that 37 LWF member churches are yet to approve the ordination of women but is also confident that progress is being made. "Changes can and do happen. Jesus is calling women into mission. But women have to be persistent and keep making their case over and over again, with the help of the brothers who support them," she said.

According to Rev Gloria Rojas, president of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Chile, barriers to the full acceptance of women in the ministry of the church are usually culturally based. She says that women in the church have to work harder than men in order to demonstrate what they are capable of achieving. Ten years ago it was hard to find female leaders in Chilean society but that is changing now. The church, too, is giving greater recognition to women, and church leaders are openly talking about it, Rojas says. 

Rev. Marie Barnett, pastor and women's coordinator of Faith Community Lutheran Church in Freetown, Sierra Leone, toward women in leadership is connected to the cultural understanding of a woman's place in society. "Women are property; they are owned - like chairs or tables. In the minds of many people (both men and women), their voices should not be heard in public."  Barnett, chairperson of the LWF Program Committee for World Service, endorses the message from the women's meeting. The challenge, however, will be to turn the statement into practice. In Africa, out of 30 Lutheran churches, only one has a woman president.

Optimism  Ms Vidhya Rani from India, a WICAS regional coordinator, shares Barnett's concern for turning words into actions. "As a faith-based organisation we must do what we say we will do. Across the communion, churches do not necessarily practice what they preach." Rani says that in India girls are born into submission to men. A 'good Indian woman' will be quiet and not overstep a man, either in church and society. "We learn this from the time we are born. By the time a woman is 20 years old this traditional view of the roles of women and men is so deeply imprinted in her that it is very difficult for her to change."  But Rani is optimistic that the goals the women leaders seek will eventually be achieved. "In India we say that if you want to knock mangoes off a tree with a stone, you probably won't succeed with the first stone you throw. It might take ten stones, but eventually you will get that mango. We won't give up."

Bishop Caroline Krook, Diocese of Stockholm, Church of Sweden, agrees with Rani, urging women to "continue to raise strong voices" about gender balance and about women in leadership. "We cannot just sit in a corner saying nothing. We have to keep fanning the flame, lest the fire grow cold and die."  Krook recognizes that in Sweden there is much greater equality between men and women, both in church and society, than in many other places. The church approved the ordination of women in 1958 and the first three women were ordained in 1960. Out of the 425 pastors in Stockholm, half are women. "In the church, we talk about the fullness of creation, and that includes men and women working together as equal partners," she says.  Mindful of places where women are not recognized as equals, she recognises, "We have a responsibility to encourage and support women in other countries.Women can look at me and other female bishops and be encouraged that it is indeed possible: 'if it can happen in Sweden, it can happen in my own country.' It is important to help and encourage others to continue the struggle."

Generally optimistic about the future of women in the church, Krook also admits to becoming impatient with the slow progress. "But then I remember how much has happened in such a short space of time, relative to the long history of the church. My grandmother was not even allowed to vote - and now her granddaughter is the bishop of Stockholm. So much progress has been achieved in a very short time, so we can be optimistic about the future."
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An estimated 500 people including over 100 church leaders are attending this year's Council meeting, church leadership consultation and the LWF 60th anniversary celebrations. Also attending are officials from LWF partner organizations, invited guests, stewards, interpreters and translators, LWF staff and co-opted staff, accredited media and participants in the three-year LWF international training program for young communicators.

The Council is the governing body meeting between Assemblies held every six years. The current Council was appointed at the July 2003 Tenth Assembly in Winnipeg, Canada. It comprises the President, Treasurer and 48 persons elected by the Assembly. Other members include advisors, lay and ordained persons, representing the different LWF regions.
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we are not alone!
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Islam's pioneering women preachers
By Richard Hamilton, BBC News

Rabat, Morocco February 25, 2007


Khadija al-Aktami: God has made
women more patient than men
 
A radical innovation in the Islamic world has arisen in Morocco - women preachers. The Mourchidat, as they are known, are the first women ever in any Muslim country that can perform the functions of a male Imam in a mosque, except lead the prayers.  Fifty Mourchidat have graduated and have now begun their ministries. However, not everyone agrees with the new appointments. The Mourchidat will be allowed to lead religious discussions and give advice in their communities - particularly to women. The only thing they will not be able to do is to lead prayers. That role will still be reserved for male Imams.

In the courtyard of Rabat's biggest mosque - the Sunna mosque - I spoke to Khadija al-Aktami. She is one of the newly qualified Mourchidat. I asked her why she thought women would be well suited to this new role: "Women make good preachers because God has made them more sensitive, merciful and more patient than men! A woman is a mother, a wife, a daughter and a friend, so she will perform well in this role. Besides, no one can understand a woman as well as another woman."

May 16 2003, like September 11, is a date etched in people's minds and synonymous with terror in Morocco. Forty-one people died in a series of suicide bombings by Islamic fundamentalists in Casablanca. It was partly in response to the Casablanca attacks that the Moroccan government introduced women preachers - to promote a more liberal brand of Islam and to counter radicalism. The Minister of Islamic Affairs, Ahmed Toufiq says the Mourchidat programme was necessary to maintain a healthy society as a preventative measure against terrorism. "Society is like a human body and the body needs to be looked after: it needs to be fed and its health has to be preserved," he said. "Terrorism is the extreme example of a serious illness in society. You cannot leave a body until it gets into a crisis. You have to feed the body to avoid it falling into a state of crisis and disease. There are all sorts of measures you can take to prevent a crisis and this is one of them. There is an obligation to do this as a means of prevention."

Control strategy? Abdelwahed Motawakil, is the secretary-general of the outlawed Islamist movement, Justice and Charity. His office is constantly being watched by the secret police. 'Justice and Charity' is highly critical of the establishment and is calling for the Moroccan monarchy to be abolished. It also believes that the new women preachers are just instruments of government propaganda.



Moroccan women are taking an
increasingly active role in public life

"If you take the idea in the abstract, I must say that it's an excellent idea, because it gives an opportunity for women to participate in an area that has been monopolised by men," he said. "But if you look a little deeper and analyse the motives, you will find out that it is part of a strategy adopted by the regime to control the religious field and not to leave that field open for their opponents - the Islamists. So they want to control that area and convey their official view of Islam."

Khadija al-Aktami is just starting on her new career as a Mourchidat but some of her colleagues will not be joining her. They have been discovered to be supporters of Justice and Charity - something that will be viewed as a major embarrassment for the Moroccan government as it tries to combat Islamic extremism.

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A gift from our Jewish sisters this Passover: Miriam's Cup blessing––a wonderful feminist tradition for seder. Use a cup that honours Moses's sister, Miriam alongside the cup for Elijah on the seder table.

Miriam's Cup

Enjoy!

xoxoxox
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quote:

Islam's pioneering women preachers
By Richard Hamilton, BBC News

Rabat, Morocco February 25, 2007


Khadija al-Aktami: God has made
women more patient than men
 
A radical innovation in the Islamic world has arisen in Morocco - women preachers.

 
 
These are some very brave women.  Our prayers and the hopes of the world go with them.

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Sharing the faith on a holy day: This year, 2007,  all Christians, regardless of the calendar (Julian or Gregorian) they follow, are celebrating Easter on the same day -- an ecumenical challenge?!

Five fractious faiths share Easter in a Jerusalem Church
Sunday, April 8, 2007
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Thousands of worshippers from five Christian faiths on Sunday celebrated Easter at the traditional site of Jesus's death, burial and resurrection -- Jerusalem's contested Holy Sepulchre Church. Pilgrims thronged to the Baroque chapel in the heart of Jerusalem's Old City to hear the five denominations' Easter masses, held in tight succession according to a controversial, 150-year-old schedule which divides the sacred sanctuary among the rival faiths. While some came from nearby Egypt, others arrived from distant countries such as India, Nigeria, and South Korea. Israel, which imposed travel bans during the Jewish Passover holiday, allowed over 8,000 Palestinians into Jerusalem from the West Bank and more than 500 from the Gaza Strip. The pious wept for joy and cried in anguish as they washed the stone slab where they believe Jesus's corpse was prepared for burial and lit candles next to the tomb in which they believe he was buried.

Due to a rare convergence of the Gregorian and Julian calendars, Armenian, Greek Orthodox, Catholics, Copts, and Assyrians all celebrated Easter on the same day this year, only the fourth time the two Easters have coincided in 20 years.

In the past, impassioned clergymen have come to blows and many have been hospitalised over alleged encroachments onto another's territory or time allotment.  "It's very complicated when everybody has to come together and pray at the same time," says Franciscan monk Father Athanasius. "If our mass runs even a few minutes too long our procession will run into the Greek procession and there could be problems," the Texas-born monk added. The status quo agreement drawn up by the Ottomans in 1852 dictated every detail of such Easter Sundays. The Armenians have until 10 am (0700 GMT) for their procession and mass, Catholics have from 10 am to 1 pm and the Greek Orthodox have from 1:15 onward. The smaller denominations, the Copts and the Assyrians, are each allotted a corner and a few minutes for services on the church's fringe, but are not allowed processions. The schedule even lays out the three minute time slot for Coptic monks to enter the Franciscan sanctuary and sprinkle incense on the column where Jesus is believed to have been scourged before his crucifixion. To avoid conflicts, daylight saving time never applies inside the church and the keys to the church's massive doors have for seven centuries remained in the hands of two Muslim families. The status quo, never meant to be permanent, is all that reins in the denominations' desire for longer masses and more real estate around the revered tomb. And despite that agreement, the faiths continue to view each other with suspicion.  "We follow the status quo and everything is okay, it has to be followed as it is written," says Armenian cleric Deacon Avetik. "But it is ignored by the Greeks. They always want more rights and try to say that this is their church."

For the thousands of pilgrims who came to Jerusalem from across the globe to celebrate Easter, the delicate balancing act passed by this year without a hitch. "Jerusalem is a wonderful place because of the way that it accommodates all faiths, religions and beliefs," said Sri Lankan pilgrim Mary Jeyaseelan. For others, the presence of Assyrian, Egyptian and other Eastern church masses make the pilgrimmage an exotic affair. Retired British construction worker Patrick Walsh decided to forgo his customary Catholic mass this Easter. "I prayed the Assyrian mass because it's in Aramaic and I've never prayed in the language of Jesus before."

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Retired Episcopal bishop and wife return to Catholic Church
April 6, 2007
ALBANY, N.Y. (CNS) -- Bishop Daniel W. Herzog, recently retired Episcopal bishop of Albany, and his wife, Carol, have left the Episcopal Church and re-entered full communion with the Catholic Church. Both were raised as Catholics and joined the Episcopal Church as adults. In a letter to his successor, Bishop William H. Love, Bishop Herzog said his decision was a result of the decision of the 2003 General Convention of the U.S. Episcopal Church to affirm the election and ordination of an openly gay man, Bishop Gene Robinson, as bishop of New Hampshire. Referring to the turmoil that action caused in the church, he said, "That turmoil was not merely external. It also caused a lot of hidden tears." In his view, he said, the power the convention claimed in taking its action "negated any previous authority on which I had relied. It caused me to engage in a fresh examination of apostolic teaching and authority."

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Welsh leader says Gospel challenges racism, militarism, nationalism, sexism and poverty
By staff writers, Ekklesia
8 Apr 2007

To believe in the resurrection of Jesus is to be incorporated in a spiritual and political struggle for life against death, empowered by God’s love rather than by the forces of oppression and division, says the Anglican Archbishop of Wales, Dr Barry Morgan, in a tough-talking Easter Message.

“Jesus preached about the forgiveness and graciousness of God and sought to free people from everything that enslaved and oppressed them,” declared the Archbishop, highlighting the radical impact of the Gospel. “For him there were no prior conditions for being accepted by God, whatever your sex, status or position. You were a child of God made in his image. His resurrection was a triumph over the forces of evil – the forces of racism, militarism, nationalism, sexism and poverty.” He continued: “To be ‘in Christ’ then is an invitation to join in that struggle, to take part in Christ’s mission and to fight against everything that enslaves and de-humanises human beings and, of course, to do so non-violently.”

Dr Morgan elaborated: “There are enough issues in our world, country and church that show clearly that men and women are still being oppressed and treated as slaves. Not just child soldiers in Angola or Korea, sweat labour in Thailand and China, and the oppressive regime of Mugabe in Zimbabwe. But also here in Wales where in 2005 there were 20,000 homeless people, 7,000 of whom were children. Sexual trafficking in young people and women is still rife in this country, and foreign nationals are often forced to live on the poverty line because their employers take back for their keep the little they pay them in wages.”

His message also hit tackled the problems of the Christian community. “[W]e still live in a church where it is not possible for women to be bishops and in a church too where most worshippers are women but all the major committees and councils of most dioceses and province are run by men and in a[n Anglican] Communion where gay people feel increasingly isolated and marginalised and even persecuted.” Concluded the Archbishop of Wales: “In the end it is not enough to believe in the resurrection as a proposition or as an article of faith, because resurrection is not just about a dead Jesus coming to life again, it is about us allowing God’s spirit to work afresh in us as he worked in Jesus. Resurrection means joining in God’s recreation of his world as and when and where, we can.”

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'Pluralism Sunday' to celebrate religious diversity
Ekklesia 10 Apr 2007

Churches across the world are gearing up for the first 'Pluralism Sunday'. Taking place at the end of May, and the initiative of a number of groups in the US, Christians taking part will dedicate their worship to a celebration of religious diversity. Organisers say it will help Christians grow closer to God and deeper in compassion, as they understand their own traditions better, through a greater awareness of the world’s religions. It is also being billed as an opportunity for Christians to share their faith with those of other religions - particularly to reach some of the many people who are turned off by Christianity because of the 'wild claims' some Christians make about their faith.

Sponsored by The Center for Progressive Christianity, Pluralism Sunday, initiated by The Center for Progressive Christianity and co-sponsored by The Institute for Progressive Christianity/CrossLeft, CrossWalkAmerica, and The Network of Spiritual Progressives, will be promoted through church networks in the US. Resources for Pluralism Sunday are also being produced, including worship and preaching ideas, and Bible studies. Pluralism Sunday takes place on 27th May, when churches around the world celebrate Pentecost. The fiftieth day after Easter Sunday, it commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the followers of Jesus, as described in the Biblical Book of Acts. According to the story, all those in the crowd heard Jesus' disciples speaking in their own language.

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Global Day of Prayer

Organised by Christian Aid, Church of England, Churches together in England, Evangelical Alliance, God TV, Premier Radio, the Methodist Church.

May 27, 2007 
Time: 14:20 - 18:00

The London Wing of the Global Day of Prayer in conjunction with Pentecost.
An Ecumenical Event

West Ham F.C, Boleyn Ground, Green St, London, E13 9AZ
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Islamabad’s Red Mosque issues fatwa to Pakistan's tourism minister
By eTN Staff Writer
April 11, 2007

Just a few days after the top cleric at the Red Mosque in Islamabad announced the creation of the Sharia or Islamic court and threatened violent retaliation if the authorities try to shut it down, the first verdict of the “court” has arrived.

Fatwa (religious edict) has been issued, along with the threats to carry out suicide attacks, against Pakistani Tourism Minister Nilofar Bakhtiar, a woman, after being photographed hugging a Frenchman during a charity paragliding trip.  "The muftis (judges) issued a decree against Tourism Minister Nilofar Bakhtiar when their attention was drawn towards some pictures in which she appeared in an obscene and objectionable manner with paraglider pilots in Paris," the mosque's deputy leader deputy Abdul Rashid Ghazi told AFP.

Bakhtiar, who went paragliding to raise funds for children affected by the October 2005 Pakistan earthquake which killed more than 73,000 people, said that the fatwa was regrettable. "I do not feel ashamed at all for what I did and I am not afraid of anyone except God," the Pakistani tourism minister told reporters. Pakistani Health Minister Shahnaz Sheikh, also a woman, said the court has no authority to issue a decree against anyone, and is misinterpreting Islam. Less than two months prior to the fatwa against the tourism minister, a woman provincial minister was shot dead by an Islamic cleric because she was not wearing a veil.

In the last few days, the government of President Pervez Musharraf has come under fire by the local media for not taking action against radical mosque even after its leader Abdul Aziz threatened suicide bombings last week. President Pervez Musharraf said he would not allow the radicals to take the law into their own hands, but did not say how he proposed to deal with them. Deputy Information Minister Tariq Azeem condemned the fatwa but said that the government’s determination is to resolve its standoff with the mosque through negotiations. "Use of force will be the last option," he said.

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Dear friends, 

William H. Shannon, who is a priest of the Diocese of Rochester and Professor Emeritus of history at Nazareth College in Rochester, New York has written a helpful commentary on the history and future of the papacy both in the context of ecumenism and the need for reform.  In his article The Future of the Papacy, he provides a helpful review of the development of the Papacy (much different today than it was at the beginning of Christianity.)  He looks at the positive aspects of the Papacy, and in the context of John Paul II's pontificate, examines some of the questions being posed by John Paul II's May 25, 1995 Encyclical Ut Unum Sint (That All May Be One -- our committment to ecumenism.)  The document opens a door for exploring what modifications might be needed to better serve Christian unity.   Shannon's article examines:
  • the history
  • the 'new situation'
  • what is essential:where to look
  • Rome's earliest role
  • the second millenium
  • the emergence of infallibility in Vatican I
  • Vatican II's counter balance to ex cathedra infallibility
  • the Church of the future

I don't have a link to the article so it is included in its entirety right here. It has also been posted in the thread Our Duty to Raise Loyal Questions.  Please enjoy! 

With love and blessings,
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The Future of the Papacy
by William H. Shannon

Pope John Paul II realized what has always been a great dream for him, namely, to lead the Church and the world into the 2000 jubilee celebration of the birth of Christ. Over the past decades he gave unstintingly of himself to the crushing burdens of his office. The cost has been so great that the whole world is wondering whether this remarkable papacy will last much longer. Inevitably, while admiring the wondrous accomplishments of this pope, people are asking questions about the future: What exactly is the role of the pope? Will the papacy continue to exercise so strong a role in the Church and in the world?

It was in the context of reflections of this sort that I talked with a friend of mine in England: an Anglican priest and a highly regarded theologian. I put the question to him: "Do we need the pope?" His answer was immediate and unequivocal. "Yes, indeed," he said, "the papacy is an indispensable element of the Church." "Why do you say that?" I asked. His answer: "The Christian Church is an historical religion. And the role of the Bishop of Rome is unquestionably an essential part of that history."

He spoke of the 1986 meeting at Assisi, to which Pope John Paul II invited leaders representing various religions. At the time my friend was canon residentiary at Canterbury Cathedral. He recalled a remark of Robert Runcie, the Archbishop of Canterbury and an Assisi attendee: "Only the pope could have called such a meeting." And one might want to add: Only a pope like John Paul II would have thought of calling such a meeting.

The papacy of John Paul II has been absolutely extraordinary. He has canonized more saints and traveled more miles than any other pope. Yet his trips have a deep spiritual purpose: They are evangelizing "pilgrimages" by a man afire with Christ's command: "Go and make disciples of every nation." A sight that became familiar to millions of people through television is this figure in white kissing the ground of country after country that he visits. He has kissed the tarmac of more airports than politicians have kissed babies!

While some might suggest that people loved the messenger more than the message, there can be no doubt that this pope's message has been strong and fearless and clear. His influence has been global. He was a major factor in breaking the power of Communism, but he has also been quick to point out the evils inherent in a capitalistic system devoted to consumerism, greed and profit. He has spoken out vigorously against what he rightly calls a culture of death: a culture in which rampant violence breeds war and genocide, abortion and euthanasia, poverty and homelessness—all these and so many other crimes against the inalienable dignity of human persons. In many ways Pope John Paul II has been the conscience of a troubled world.

John Paul II had yet another dream that today is still a long way from realization, namely, the reunion of all Christians. In an important encyclical, entitled Ut Unum Sint (That All May Be One), he addresses himself to other Christian Churches and asks them: What changes need to be made in the exercise of papal authority that could make the papal office a source of unity, rather than division, among Christians? He sees this as an immensely important issue that he must deal with, yet cannot accomplish by himself. He invites Church leaders and their theologians to engage with him "in a patient and fraternal dialogue on this subject, dialogue in which, leaving useless controversies behind, we could listen to one another, keeping before us only the will of Christ for his Church and allowing ourselves to be deeply moved by his plea that 'they may be one.'" The subject of the dialogue, therefore, would be "to find a way of exercising the primacy which, while in no way renouncing what is essential to its mission, is nonetheless open to a new situation" (# 96, 95).

This was a bold step. To suggest the need of discovering a new way of exercising the primacy implies that the way it is presently being exercised needs to be changed. The pope's statement poses at least two questions for us: First, what does he mean by the new situation to which we must be open? Second, how do we discover what is essential to the mission of the primacy: so essential that, even in the interests of unity, it can in no way be renounced without its ceasing to be what Christ willed it to be?

The 'new situation' - The "new situation" John Paul refers to is the longing that has arisen, in our time—in the minds and hearts of so many who call themselves Christian—that there be one visible Church of God. "In recent times," he says, "The Lord of the Ages has begun to bestow more generously upon divided Christians remorse over their divisions and a longing for unity. Everywhere, large numbers have felt the impulse of this grace and among our separated brothers and sisters also there increases from day to day a movement, fostered by the grace of the Holy Spirit, for the restoration of unity among all Christians" (# 7). When one recalls the sad history of religious battles of the past centuries, it becomes abundantly clear that today we do indeed live in a "new situation," fraught with wondrous opportunities of bringing to fruition the earnest prayer of Jesus "that they may all be one…" (John 17:21).

What is essential: Where to look - Ut Unum Sint suggests a direction in which we need to move in order to reach an answer as to the role of the pope. Immediately after speaking of the need to be open to a new situation, but without prejudicing the essence of the primacy, the pope says: "For a whole millennium [the first millennium] the Churches [of the East and the West] were 'linked in a union of faith and sacramental life…if disagreements in belief and discipline arose among them, the Roman See acted by common consent as moderator'" (# 95).

This statement suggests that if we wish to look for the ideal way in which the primacy of the Bishop of Rome should be exercised (and a way that does not prejudice its very essence), we should look to the first millennium, when a united Christian Church actually did exist.

Some Catholics may be shocked by the suggestion that the papal office was not the same then as it is now. These are Catholics who are convinced that the only way to Christian unity is for other Christians to submit themselves to the supreme authority of the pope. Implied in such an attitude is the belief that the papacy has always operated in the past in precisely the same way as it does today and that it is the will of Christ that this be so. For them, therefore, any substantive diminishment of the supreme authority of the pope over the universal Church must be viewed as a betrayal of the will of Christ.

Such people seem to assume that Peter and his immediate successors claimed and exercised authority over the universal Church, that they appointed bishops in the other Churches and even (perhaps) that they expected all the bishops to report regularly to them.

A quick look at history belies such a view. It shows just how much the papacy has changed over the centuries. The Petrine ministry as it is exercised today, at the beginning of the third millennium, would hardly have been recognized by the popes and bishops of the first millennium.

Let me offer a simple example of what I mean. At the time I was writing this article, Catholics in America were awaiting the appointment of a new Archbishop of New York. When the appointment was finally made, would any Catholic ever think of calling Archbishop Edward Egan the pope of New York? Hardly. Yet for much of the first millennium "pope" was a title for many bishops, and at times even for priests who were not bishops.

Rome's earliest role - During the first millennium the Bishop of Rome, since Rome was the city in which Peter and Paul had been martyred, exercised a leadership role in the Church. Bishops of other churches often looked to the Bishop of Rome for help in resolving doctrinal and disciplinary matters. Further, the Bishop of Rome did not hesitate to speak out when the unity of the Church seemed to be threatened.

No Bishop of Rome ever claimed the right to exercise authority over the other churches, much less to appoint their bishops. He saw himself as a bishop among bishops, with the special role of serving the unity of the universal Church, protecting the integrity of the gospel and at times acting as spokesman for his brother bishops. The bishops were united collegially with one another or, to repeat the words of Pope John Paul II cited above, they were "linked in a union of faith and sacramental life."

During the first millennium the Bishop of Rome was chosen by the clergy and laity of Rome. Up until the ninth century the Roman Church never chose as its bishop someone who was already a bishop elsewhere. Hence the election in 882 of Marinus I to succeed Pope John VIII as Bishop of Rome was a significant departure from this long-standing tradition. While Marinus had served in the Church of Rome as archdeacon to Pope John VIII, he was—when elected to the Roman see—already the bishop of Caere in Tuscany. This means, as the Oxford Dictionary of Popes says, that "he was the first bishop of another see to be elected pope." It was a precedent-setting event that would have far-reaching effects in the second millennium.

The second millennium - The 11th century witnessed drastic changes in the understanding of the Petrine ministry. Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085) reserved the title "pope" exclusively to the Bishop of Rome. A man of exceptional talent, he made reform the keystone of his pontificate, at a time when reform was desperately needed in the Church. He had an exalted mystique of the papacy, describing himself as "universal pastor" and claiming the right to appoint and depose bishops. He even claimed authority in the secular order and the right to depose emperors and kings.

A century later, Innocent III (1198-1216), with an equally elevated concept of his office, saw the pope as above the Church rather than in the Church, "set midway between God and man, below God, but above men, given not only the universal Church but the whole world to govern." A huge job description, though hardly a modest one! He changed the designation of his office from what it had been up to his time ("Vicar of Peter") to the title, "Vicar of Christ." He said of himself: "Although successor of the prince of the apostles, we are not his vicar or that of any man or apostle; we are vicar of Christ himself." It comes as no surprise that one of the decrees of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which he convoked, stated: "The Roman Church through the Lord's disposition has a primacy of ordinary power over all other Churches inasmuch as it is the mother and mistress of all Christ's faithful."

In the 19th century the First Vatican Council (1869-70) established the "blueprint" for the understanding of the papal office that would dominate Roman Catholic thought till the 1960's Second Vatican Council. Vatican I defined the primacy and infallibility of the Bishop of Rome.

Infallibility emerges - Vatican I was a summing up of the understanding of the papacy that had been developing during the second millennium. Its dogmatic constitution on the Church, Pastor Aeternus, is a reprise of the teaching of Gregory VII and Innocent III: "We teach and declare that, by divine ordinance, the Roman church possesses a preeminence of ordinary power over every other Church and that this jurisdictional power of the Roman Pontiff is both episcopal and immediate. Both clergy and faithful…are bound to submit to this power…."

What effect does so strong an assertion of papal power have on the authority of bishops of local Churches? The answer is ambiguous at best: "The power of the supreme pontiff by no means detracts from the ordinary and immediate power" of bishops. For the bishops are successors of the apostles and by appointment of the Holy Spirit govern the particular flock entrusted to them.

In all fairness it must be said that the Council did not have the time to discuss in detail the authority of bishops, as with the outbreak of the Franco-Prussian War, the Council was adjourned for an indefinite time. It was never reconvened.

In one very significant area, Vatican I was more than a reprise of previous second millennium thinking. For it also defined the doctrine of infallibility. The Council said that, when the Roman pontiff defines a truth ex cathedra, he possesses the divine assistance promised to St. Peter, namely, that infallibility which the Divine Redeemer willed his church to enjoy in defining doctrine concerning faith or morals. This doctrine is an essential issue for the future of the papacy.

Vatican II's balance -  Vatican II, in its constitution on the Church, attempted to establish a balance between the power of the pope and that of the bishops. This was an important step since, in the years following Vatican I, a mentality (untrue to that Council's teaching) became widespread in the Church, namely, the belief that the pope ran the Church and the bishops were simply his delegates, acting in his stead among all the faithful.

Vatican II asserts very clearly that the bishops govern the Churches over which they preside and do so as vicars of Christ: "The power which they exercise personally in the name of Christ is proper, ordinary and immediate." It makes clear that "they are not to be considered as vicars of the Roman pontiffs, because they exercise a power that is proper to them." Vatican II recovered that sense of collegiality among the bishops of the Church in union with the Bishops of Rome that characterized the Church of the first millennium.

It may be said that Vatican II supplemented Vatican I, though it did not replace it. Like Vatican I it asserted the primacy and infallibility of the pope, but in a context of collegiality. The pope is the subject of infallibility, but so are the bishops of the universal Church in union with the pope their head. Ideally the pope speaks in union with all the bishops, but even in certain circumstances, when he speaks alone, he speaks as head of the college of bishops.

Church of the future - History, then, shows us that the papacy has changed in substantive ways over the centuries. The question which Pope John Paul II posed in Ut Unum Sint can only be responded to in the light of this history of dramatic change. I have suggested the pope's encyclical seems to point to the first millennium as presenting an understanding of the papal office that can serve as a kind of icon for what the papacy might be in a united Church. The dialogues among Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans and other Christian groups may be able to find in that first millennium Church concrete answers to the questions: Do we need the pope? And, while seeking the will of Christ for his Church, what kind of pope do we need?

One of the crucial issues calling for ecumenical dialogue today is this: Is it posssible to rethink the primacy of the pope, as it presently is, in the light of what it was in the first millennium? This is no easy task. The issue is: Can this be done in a creative way? We obviously cannot simply return to the papacy of the first millennium. Yet history teaches us to be flexible in our understanding of the papacy. The need for Christian unity, as Pope John Paul II suggests, tells us that the papacy of the future might well look different from the papacy we know today.

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William H. Shannon, a priest of the Diocese of Rochester, is professor emeritus of history at Nazareth College, Rochester, New York, and founder of the International Thomas Merton Society. His books include Something of a Rebel: Thomas Merton, His Life and Works—An Introduction (St. Anthony Messenger Press).

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RE: RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Ben... - 19/4/2007 2:55:02 AM   
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Dear friends,

I am just in the process of merging a post by our Guest P who raised a question about Ecumenism in another dialogue thread.  I will be back to provide P with more information.  But in the meantime, here is P's question:


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Shouldn't them correct their errors and come back to the true Church? That's the whole point of Ecumenism, isn't it? :P

With love and blessings,
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RE: RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Ben... - 20/4/2007 8:04:23 PM   
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Dear P,

You raise a good question.  Ecumenical dialogue was something close to the heart of Pope John XXIII.  One of the documents produced by Vatican II that dealt with this topic is the Decree on Ecumenism. In her article, Catholicism Welcomes the World, Virginia Smith provides an overview of the work of both ecumenical and inter-religious dialogue.  Smith helps answer your question: "Shouldn't them correct their errors and come back to the true Church? That's the whole point of Ecumenism, isn't it?" when she points out:



In a move startling to some, the decree sought to re-establish ties with other Christian traditions rather than insist that they embrace Catholicism. Equally astonishing was the admission that the Catholic Church shares the responsibility for existing divisions and sees its own reform as an essential component in efforts toward reunion. To this end, the decree made a strong push for dialogue and opened the door to friendly discourse by acknowledging separated Christian traditions as sister and brother churches.

I will provide a copy of her article for you in a subsequent post.

In terms of recognition of our own reform as an essential component of ecumenical dialogue, Pope John Paul II recognised that since the Papacy itself may be a stumbling block to ecumenical efforts, some changes may be required in terms of how it works.  In his, Ut Unum Sint (That All May Be One)  he reflects and poses questions about this.  I will provide a commentary about it for you along with a link to Ut Unum Sint .

I hope this provides some food for thought and helps fill in some blanks.  If you have any questions, please let me know.

With love and blessings,
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RE: RE:Ecumenism, Inter-religious Dialogue and Pope Ben... - 20/4/2007 8:09:54 PM   
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Here is a copy of Virginia Smith's article:  Catholicism Welcomes the World.
 
Three documents, The Decree on Ecumenism, Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions, and Declaration on Religious Freedom, represent the Church's efforts to not only unify the community of Christians worldwide but also change attitudes and promote understanding toward non-Christian faiths.

Catholicism Welcomes the World by Virginia Smith

Tucked away among the longer documents of Vatican II are two shorter ones: the Decree on Ecumenism and the Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions. Their impact far exceeds their length. Together with the Declaration on Religious Freedom, these landmark documents represent a great leap forward for the Church, creating a seismic shift that will continue to reverberate across the religious world in the decades and centuries ahead.

Unity, especially among Christians, was a theme of the papacy of John XXIII. He wanted to change the long-standing attitude of Catholic triumphalism that stood in the way of better relations with other denominations. When the pope declared his intention to convene the ecumenical council, it was clear that ecumenism would be a pivotal theme.

Many people mistakenly think John XXIII’s commitment to ecumenism is the reason behind calling Vatican II  “ecumenical.” In fact, the word ecumenical simply refers to something universal or general in scope—thus its use to describe the Council. It has also come to mean cooperation and communication within the worldwide Christian community. Some mention of ecumenism from that perspective found its way into eight of the 16 documents of Vatican II as well as the opening speeches of both Council popes, John XXIII and Paul VI.
Perhaps most remarkable was the invitation extended to other Christian Churches to send representatives to the Council. Twenty-one Orthodox and Protestant groups accepted the invitation, including Russian Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Congregational, Methodist, Presbyterian, Friends (Quakers), Disciples of Christ and the World Council of Churches.

Moving toward Christian unity

When the draft of the Decree on Ecumenism was introduced to the Council, the bishops’ reaction was immediate and enthusiastic. Montreal’s Cardinal Léger remarked, “The present hope for and movement toward unity are not passing impulses, but are inspired by the Gospel and the Holy Spirit.”

Initially, questions concerning non-Christian religions and religious liberty were included in the Decree on Ecumenism. It was decided to treat these unique issues in separate documents. This allowed the Decree on Ecumenism to focus exclusively on the regrettable divisions in the Body of Christ.

In a move startling to some, the decree sought to re-establish ties with other Christian traditions rather than insist that they embrace Catholicism. Equally astonishing was the admission that the Catholic Church shares the responsibility for existing divisions and sees its own reform as an essential component in efforts toward reunion. To this end, the decree made a strong push for dialogue and opened the door to friendly discourse by acknowledging separated Christian traditions as sister and brother churches.

Building the Body of Christ

Focusing first on what unites Christians rather than the sometimes serious issues dividing them, the Church let it be known that many important elements that “build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit....Our separated brothers and sisters also carry out many liturgical actions of the Christian religion...these liturgical actions most certainly can truly engender a life of grace, and...are capable of giving access to that communion in which is salvation” (#3).

Lest Catholicism be seen as setting itself above the fray, the Council Fathers acknowledged, “Catholics must assuredly be concerned for the members of separated Christian communities, praying for them, keeping them informed about the Church, making the first approaches toward them. But their primary duty is to make a careful and honest appraisal of whatever needs to be renewed and done in the Catholic household itself, in order that its life may bear witness more clearly and more faithfully to the teachings and institutions which have been handed down from Christ through the apostles” (#4).

Vatican II recognized that efforts toward unity were not entirely new. “Already this renewal is taking place in various spheres of the Church’s life: the biblical and liturgical movements; the preaching of the Word of God and catechetics; the apostolate of the laity; new forms of religious life and the spirituality of married life; and the Church’s social teaching and activity” (#6).

In the final analysis, much of the work of ecumenism begins with individuals: “The faithful should remember that they promote union among Christians better, that indeed they live it better, when they try to live holier lives according to the Gospel” (#7).

Turning toward each other

Opinions about how far we’ve traveled toward Christian unity differ widely. As in most other major areas addressed by the Council Fathers, the opinion pendulum swings from those who believe too little has been accomplished to those who consider the Church to have gone too far.

Those who would like to see more rapid progress may well mean more obvious progress. The years immediately following the Council saw teeming activity with everything from ecumenical discussion groups to joint prayer gatherings. In their eagerness to be accommodating, some people tended to ignore very real differences between Catholics and their fellow Christians. By now, most sincere people realize that nothing is gained by refusing to acknowledge points on which we disagree.

While it is probably true that the initial fervor has cooled a bit, that in no way implies that the work of ecumenism has stalled. In the years since the Council, Catholic theologians and scholars have met for weeks, months and even years with their counterparts from other traditions including Anglican, Orthodox, Lutheran and Methodist. Their work is true ecumenism, first seeking points of accord and harmony, then recognizing legitimate areas of difference and finally searching for common ground on critical positions.

During a recent discussion in Rome on ecumenical relations, Australian Bishop Michael Putney, who co-chairs  the International Methodist-Catholic Dialogue, commented that Vatican II had converted him to the cause of ecumenism. He added that we discover who we are only by engaging those different from ourselves. This helps us to clarify and articulate our faith, making dialogue a spiritual discipline.

Are we there yet? Certainly not. But after centuries of moving ever farther apart, Christians have at last turned toward one another. That may be the most important effect of the Decree on Ecumenism over time, for direction is more important than speed.

Finding truth in other faiths

In a single chapter, The Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions turned centuries of disregard and, too often, disrespect a full 180 degrees. The declaration (commonly referred to by its Latin title, Nostra Aetate) was originally intended to focus almost exclusively on Catholic/Jewish relations, a topic dear to the heart of Pope John XXIII. As apostolic delegate to Turkey and Greece during World War II, he had helped Jewish refugees fleeing to Palestine. He came away from that experience determined that anti-Semitism, wherever and however it still existed in the world, must be stamped out. In its final form, the declaration still carried a heavy Jewish focus but was broadened to include other great traditions as well.

Here, for the first time, the Catholic Church conceded that, while the fullness of truth rests in Jesus, much truth is to be found and respected in other religions also. Equally radical was the document’s encouragement of dialogue among the great world faiths and recognition of the contributions they have made.

Changing attitudes

For the first time in its history, the Catholic Church formally expressed appreciation for the merits of non-Christian religions: “The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions. It has a high regard for the manner of life and conduct, the precepts and doctrines which...often reflect a ray of that truth which enlightens all...” (#2).

In light of recent world events, the following has taken on more vital significance: “The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth....Although not acknowledging him as God, they venerate Jesus as a prophet; his virgin Mother they also honor, and even at times devoutly invoke” (#3).

And after a long history of persecutions and pogroms carried out against Jews on the grounds that they are Christ-killers, the declaration reads: “Even though the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ (see Jn 19:6), neither all Jews indiscriminately at that time, nor Jews today, can be charged with the crimes committed during his passion....Remembering, then, its common heritage with the Jews and moved not by any political consideration, but solely by the religious motivation of Christian charity, it deplores all hatreds, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism levelled at any time or from any source against the Jews” (#4).

Respecting others

Pope John Paul II has done much to forward the agenda of Vatican II’s declaration on non-Christian religions: gathering the leaders of many faiths at Assisi, praying at Auschwitz and joining Jerusalem’s rabbinical leaders in prayer at the Western (Wailing) Wall. He was also the first pope in history to enter and pray in a mosque.

In the days and weeks following 9/11, I received many phone calls and e-mails from former students, expressing gratitude that they had some knowledge of Islam. Many were surprised and dismayed to find they were the only ones in their circles of friends, co-workers, etc., who had some acquaintance with Muslim belief and practice. They acted as voices crying in the wilderness, trying to explain that what occurred that dreadful day in no way reflected authentic Islamic teaching.
Gradually, Catholics are grasping the truth that every religion, including their own, contains extreme groups which do not accurately reflect their tradition’s beliefs.
What the Decree on Ecumenism and the Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions require of all religious persons of good will is twofold: to understand accurately and respect other religious traditions, and to reflect in our own lives an authentic image of our own tradition. In that way, we will honor both the innovative Council documents we have examined here and the pope whose astonishing vision we have to thank for them.

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