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Why we challenge the Teaching Authority

Why we challenge the Teaching Authority

Why we dare challenge the Teaching Authority

regarding the exclusion of women from Holy Orders

Background music?

 

Culture Shift

The ordination of women belongs to the type of ‘doctrine’ liable to distortion by cultural perceptions.

  “Why should we cave in to feminist histrionics?!”
   

The Facts

The theological reasons for excluding women from holy orders contradict Scripture, Tradition and Theology.

   

“Surely Rome has declared this to be Infallible Teaching?!”

   
 

Lessons from History

The teaching authority has made many serious mistakes in similar cases of presumed ‘doctrine’.

  “If you talk like that, how will we ever trust the teaching authority again?!”

See ‘Papal Power’ by Paul Collins

   

True Loyalty

Theologians and the faithful have a duty in conscience to voice their disagreement with the defence of unfounded ‘doctrine’.

    “Then what about blind obedience?!”
   
 

Sense of Faith

As carriers of inerrancy the faithful reject the exclusion of women from the sacred ministries.

  “You are undermining the authority of the hierarchy!”
       
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The theological reasons for excluding women cannot be founded on Scripture or Tradition

The theological reasons for excluding women cannot be founded on Scripture or Tradition

The theological reasons for excluding women from holy orders contradict Scripture, Tradition and Theology

The arguments adduced to bolster the ban of women priests do not stand up to scrutiny. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome is simply wrong.

For a detailed discussion of these claims and their refutation, please visit our lively debate found here.

Here we will point out some plain facts.

1. Jesus gave women an equal status in his community,

and

empowered them in principle, like the men, to preside at his Eucharist.

 
 

2. Until at least the ninth century AD
the Church gave
to tens of thousands of women

the full sacramental ordination
of the diaconate.

3. Through baptism women, much as men, become God’s adopted children.

This predisposes women, no less than men, to receive all the sacraments including holy orders.

“But surely Rome has declared this to be Infallible Teaching?!”

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
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Kama Waunga Mkono Wa Kutokuwa Na Makosa Kwa Utamaduni Waumini Wakataa Kutokuwepo Kwa Wanawake Katika Mashirika Matakatifu

Kama Waunga Mkono Wa Kutokuwa Na Makosa Kwa Utamaduni Waumini Wakataa Kutokuwepo Kwa Wanawake Katika Mashirika Matakatifu

Kama Waunga Mkono Wa Kutokuwa Na Makosa Kwa Utamaduni Waumini Wakataa Kutokuwepo Kwa Wanawake Katika Mashirika Matakatifu

Papa na maaskofu wanajukumu kuu la kuelekeza kupitia kwa mafunzo yao ya kidini tabia na mienendo ya wafuasi wao.Walakini haya yatakiwa kuwa kwenye misingi ya kidini na wala sio kwenye njia nyingine yoyote ile.

Pendekezo la kurekembisha ambako kulinuiwa kufanya ushupafu naumaarufu wa sheria kama njia kuidhinasha matendo ya binadamu katika kikao cha Vatican 2, lilikataliwa kwa kuwa kinyume na utamaduni. Vatican II, Acta synodalia III/1, pp. 198-199; R.R.Gaillardetz, Teaching with Authority. A Theology of the Magisterium in the Church, Liturgical Press 1997, p. 154.

“Mwili wa muumini kama ulivyotakazwa na roho mtakatifu hauwezi kukokesea katika swala la kuamini” ( 1 yohana 2,20.27)

Vatican II, Lumen Gentium, § 12

“Watu wa mungu hushikilia kwa wanachoamini wanapookolewa,na huwa wqanaongozwa nao maishani.”

Vatican II, Lumen Gentium, § 12

“Kwa sababu ya nguvu spesheli zinazopelekana naswala hili la kuamini wafuasi wote kutoka kwa maaskofu hadi wale walio chini kwenye mpangilio wa kidini huwa linaonyesha umoja wa makubariano katika maswala ya kidini na tabia.”

Vatican II, Lumen Gentium, § 12

Wakatoliki wengi huunga mkono kuwepo kwa wanawake katika makundi ambayo huongoza makanisa.

Jadwali hili laonyesha washirika wa kikatoliki wanaounga mkono kuwepo kwa makasisi wanawake.

Ulaya Canada Uhispania Ureno Netherlands Ujeremani Italia Australia Ireland Marekani
Asili mia sitini na tano(65%) Asili mia sitini na sita(66%) Asilimia sabinina Asili mia sabini na moja(71%) Asili mia themanini na sita(86%) Asili mia sabinina moja(71%) Asili mia hamsinina nane(58%) Asili mia sitini na mbili(62%) Asili mia sitini na saba(67%) Asili mia sitini na nane(68%)

Kutoka kwa::
John Wijngaards, The Ordination of Women in the Catholic Church. Unmasking a Cuckoo’s Egg Tradition, London & New York 2001, pp. 44-47.

misimamo ya kikatoliki haitaafikiwa kwa misingi ya kura .

ya waliowengi
kulingana jadwali hili wafuasi wengi wa kikatoliki wanaunga mkono na pia wanaamini kuwa hakuna chochote kile kinachoweza kuzuia kuwepo kwa makasisi wa kike kanisani.pia hawa ni wana misimamo na mizizi katika ukale.

“ama tunadunisha kwa vyovyote vile mpangilio na nguvu zakanisa?”

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
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feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
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Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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The teaching authority has made many serious mistakes in similar cases of presumed ‘doctrine’

The teaching authority has made many serious mistakes in similar cases of presumed ‘doctrine’

The teaching authority has made many serious mistakes in similar cases of presumed ‘doctrine’

The teaching authority guards the community of faith against heresies. It deserves our respect. But history shows that the teaching authority has made, and can make, serious errors of judgment.

These mistakes have frequently happened in the context of culture shift. The teaching authority has often clung to antiquated, traditional opinions and practices that were unwisely identified with the essence of Christian faith.

It is instructive to study some examples.

When banking started in Europe, businesses began to demand interest on money loans – as we all do today. Going by Old Testament laws, the Church forbade it.

The Second Council of the Lateran (1139 A. D.) prescribed that persons who take interest “be not admitted to the sacraments”. And: “in case they do not retract their error, they should be refused an ecclesiastical burial.”

The magisterium revoked the prohibition only in 1830. During the preceding six centuries many businessmen and their families lived and died outside the Church.

 

Until 1888 the popes and their curial offices defended the legitimacy of slavery!

The Fathers, Church synods, popes and theologians maintained that slaves could be legitimately owned, bought and sold.

The Congregation for Doctrine in Rome still declared on 20 June 1866: “Slavery itself, considered as such in its essential nature, is not at all contrary to the natural law or God’s law. There can be several just titles of slavery . . .It is not contrary to the natural and divine law for a slave to be sold, bought, exchanged or given”.

 

Catholic bishops, theologians and activists who campaigned for abolition were branded as ‘troublemakers’ and ‘heretics’.

Until at least 1854, the official teaching of the Church was that there was no salvation outside the Church.

Not only did popes and theologians proclaim this as official doctrine. It seemed to have been defined by Church Councils as a dogma of faith!

The Council of Florence declared in 1442, under Pope Eugene IV: “The Holy Roman Church … firmly believes, professes and preaches that no-one remaining outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, heretics or schismatics, can become partakers of eternal life; but they will go to the ‘eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels’ (Mt. 25:41), unless before the end of their life they are received into it. For union with the body of the Church is of so great importance that the sacraments of the Church are helpful only for those remaining in it; and fasts, almsgiving, and other works of piety, and exercises of a militant Christian life bear eternal rewards for them alone. And no one can be saved, even if he sheds his blood for the name of Christ, unless he remains in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church”.

This so-called doctrine, now revoked by Vatican II, arose from total ignorance of the pluriformity of religions. It ignored the experience of God’s grace outside the Church.

The truth of the matter is that the magisterium has constantly been behind the times: in the question of taking interest on capital loans; on the earth circling the sun; on evolution; on the authorship of sacred scripture; on democracy, trade unions, religious freedom and ecumenism; on at least 64 questions. Whatever modern reality cropped up, Rome first got it wrong. Does it not pursue the same path now by banning contraceptives, optional celibacy and the ordination of women?

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
culture shift the facts history true loyalty sense of faith
feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
Do you have any questions for us? __Suggestions? __Remarks?


Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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Theologians and the faithful have a duty in conscience to voice their disagreement

Theologians and the faithful have a duty in conscience to voice their disagreement

Theologians and the faithful have a
duty in conscience
to voice their disagreement when the Teaching Authority fails

There is a tendency for those in authority to imagine that they need not listen to the advice of others. This has been a frequent cause of serious mistakes in the past.

The Church has made it clear that all the faithful, and in particular theologians, have a duty to voice their objections in matters in which they have knowledge or experience.

 

“Let it be recognized that all the faithful, whether clerics or laity, possess
a lawful freedom of inquiry,
freedom of thought
and freedom of expressing their mind with humility and fortitude
in those matters on which they enjoy competence.”

Second Vatican Council,
Gaudium et Spes § 62

“In accord with the knowledge, competence and preeminence which they possess, the Christian faithful have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church.

They also have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful, with due regard for the integrity of faith and morals and reverence towards their pastors.”

Catholic Church Law,
canon 212, § 3 .

 

“Freedom of speech is a normal factor in the growth of public opinion which expresses the ideas and reactions of the more influential circles in a society” (§ 25).
“If public opinion is to emerge in the proper manner, it is absolutely essential that there be freedom to express ideas and attitudes.”
Communio et Progressio,
29 January 1971

“The magisterium draws great benefit from critical and industrious theological study and from the cordial collaboration of the theologians . . . Without the help of theology the magisterium could undoubtedly preserve and teach the faith, but it would arrive only with difficulty at the lofty and full knowledge it needs to perform its task, since it is aware that it is not endowed with revelation or the charism of inspiration but only with the assistance of the Holy Spirit.”
Pope Paul VI
1 October 1966

 

““Those who are engaged in the sacred disciplines enjoy a lawful freedom of inquiry and of prudently expressing their opinions on matters in which they have expertise, while observing a due respect for the magisterium of the Church.”

Catholic Church Law,
canon 218.

“Then what about blind obedience?!”

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
culture shift the facts history true loyalty sense of faith
feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
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Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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Feminist issue?

Feminist issue?

Feminist issue?

Background music?

“This is a typically feminist issue.

Women are making more and more strident demands in our days! This is OK in the work place, perhaps, but surely not in church!”

“Sorry, my friend!

This is a theological question. It affects the life and health of the whole Church!

It is true that the struggle for women’s emancipation has helped to draw attention to women’s position in the Church. But the roots lie in history.”

Through cultural bias in the past the true equal status of women in the Church has been obscured!

“YOU women want to change doctrine to suit yourselves.

We choose to be faithful to our sacred unchangeable traditions.

The Church cannot change its doctrine just to be ‘politically correct’ or to please some feminists!”

“Wrong!

We do not need a change of doctrine.
What needs to change is your theological prejudice.

We need to remove the layer of biased interpretation that has obscured, and still obscures, the real meaning of sacred scripture and tradition.

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
culture shift the facts history true loyalty sense of faith
feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
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Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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Infallible Teaching?

Infallible Teaching?

Infallible Teaching?

“Yes!

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has declared this to be infallible doctrine!!!

Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith stated: ‘This teaching has been set forth infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium’. ”
Response to a Doubt, 28 October 1995

“Did he indeed? Infallible, heh?

The ‘ordinary and universal magisterium’ refers to the combined teaching of all the Catholic bishops in the world.

But the combined episcopate has never taught this doctrine.”

“Hold on!

The vast majority of bishops in the world believe that women cannot be ordained.

We know this for certain because they were chosen because they agree with the Pope on this point!”

“Look again!

It may be that all bishops of the world hold this as their opinion of faith. This is known as an opinio communis (common view).

Opinio communis means nothing in terms of Church teaching.

A hundred years ago most bishops still rejected evolution. In those days all firmly believed that the world was created in six days! This does not mean it was their combined teaching.

“Then what makes it combined teaching?

Doesn’t Vatican II say: ‘Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth’?
Lumen Gentium § 25b.

“Well, read the full text!

Vatican II says: ‘The Bishops proclaim Christ’s doctrine infallibly whenever, even though dispersed through the world, they maintain the bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter, authentically teach matters of faith and morals, and are in agreement on one position as definitively to be held.’
Lumen Gentium § 25b.

Five conditions are therefore required:

  1. Collegial action.
    It is clear that the bishops must be involved in an exercise of teaching authority as one body.
  2. As ‘judges’.
    The bishops must be free to express their own considered opinion.
  3. In service of the faith of the whole Church.
    The bishops must listen to the Word of God and the ‘sensus fidelium’.
  4. Regarding faith and morals.
    The teaching must concern matters relating to the object of faith.
  5. In a teaching consciously imposed as ‘definitive’.
    The bishops must want to impose the doctrine as definitely to be held.

None of these five conditions have been met!

“You put your opinion against that of Cardinal Ratzinger?!

On what authority do you base your assessment?!”

“Top theologians all over the world have rejected Cardinal Ratzinger’s claim of infallibility.
.

  1. The Catholic Theological Society of America
  2. Nicholas Lash, professor of divinity, Cambridge University, UK
  3. Francis A. Sullivan SJ, emeritus professor Gregorian University Rome
  4. Elizabeth A. Johnson, C.S.J., professor of theology at Fordham University, New York
  5. Gisbert Greshake, professor of theology at the University of Freiburg, Germany
  6. Ann O’Hara Graff, professor of theology at Seattle University, Washington
  7. Peter Hünermann, professor of theology at Tübingen University, Germany
  8. Sidney Cornelia Callahan, pastoral theologian, USA
  9. David Knight, pastoral theologian, Memphis, USA
  10. Richard Gaillardetz, associate professor, University of St. Thomas, Houseton, USA
  11. Klaus Nientiedt, ‘How Binding? “Ordinatio sacerdotalis” unleashes debate on the Magisterium’, Herder Korrespondenz 9 (1996) pp. 461-466.
  12. John H. Wright, ‘That all doubt may be removed’, America 171 (July 30-Aug. 6, 1994) pp. 16-19.
  13. Fr. Joseph Moingt SJ, editor of Recherches de Science Religieuse.
  14. Hugh O’Regan, editor of the on-line magazine, San Fransico Bay Catholic.
  15. The commission on “Woman and the Church” of the Belgian Bishops’ Conference

Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
culture shift the facts history true loyalty sense of faith
feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
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Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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Can we ever trust the Teaching Authority again?

Can we ever trust the Teaching Authority again?

Can we ever trust the Teaching Authority again?

“The way you talk, shakes my faith!

If the Teaching Authority has made so many mistakes in the past, how will we ever trust it again!?”

“You are right!

The teaching authority has an important function in the Church. It is like a food and health commission entrusted with the task to watch over public safety.

It is not good for the Church that the teaching authority has lost, and is still losing, so much of its credibility.

The Church should heed Christ’s warning about salt getting corrupted.

“Salt getting corrupted?

What do you mean?”

“To restore its credibility the Vatican should immediately stop unhelpful practices such as these:

  • Blocking the free and constructive deliberation of the Synod of Bishops.
    The Synod of Bishops was set up by the Second Vatican Council to counterbalance the influence of the Curia.
  • Interfering in the legitimate exercise of authority by bishops’ conferences.
    The bishops are not vicars of the pope, but vicars of Christ who rule their dioceses in their own right.
  • Appointing only like-minded candidates to episcopal sees, central offices, the international theological commission, etc.
    It puts a b-category of submissive yes-men into church leadership.
  • The suppression of theologians who dare to contradict official views.
    This is bound to impoverish honest and creative thinking in the Church.”
Why we challenge the teaching authority Frequently asked questions Next?
culture shift the facts history true loyalty sense of faith
feminism? infallible? credibility? obedience? undermining?
What are the ‘rights’ of Catholics in the Church?
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Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research

The Institute is known for issuing academic reports and statements on relevant issues in the Church. These have included scholars’ declarations on the need of collegiality in the exercise of church authority, on the ethics of using contraceptives in marriage and the urgency of re-instating the sacramental diaconate of women.

Visit also our websites:Women Deacons, The Body is Sacred and Mystery and Beyond.

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